4.0 grains of CFE with a 147 is a soft shooting pretty accurate load. I need to move it around a tenth of a grain or two in either direction to see if I can get better results, but this load works pretty darn good.
They had some at the gun show in lawrenceville this past weekend. It was steep ($ 39.95/lb) , but still better than ordering online and then paying shipping plus hazmat just to try a pound.
I bought it at the Gun Room in Conyers for regular prices. Been happy with 3.9 grains under a 147 9mm. Have not chrono'ed it yet. Atom242 - if you chrono it, please share your data.