On the news they showed a lady with a High Point carbine run three gang members off trying to break into her house. She unloaded on them and they scattered like cock roaches. Tell her all the negative comments you have on the High Point. She was chucking slugs at them as fast as she could pull the trigger. One of the funniest videos I have seen to date. I don't own one but if it's the only thing you can afford for self defense it serves it's purpose. The carbines run just fine. I use to have a 40 cal 4095 and I ran a few hundred rounds through it and it ran like a champ. I bought it for the kids to shoot. It was accurate and never fail to fire. I wouldn't own a HP hand gun just because they are ugly but the carbine ran just fine. To many haters on this site. There are guns that are directed at price points for all sorts of classes of buyers. Some can't go out and buy a 500-1000 dollar gun. I would rather have a HP than a stick in my hand. You have to put yourself in their shoes once in a while to put into perspective. They are basically the Saturday Night Special of today's firearms. Let's say you need to go out and wack someone. Do you really want to throw a Les Bear into the river or a High Point. LOL J/K