EV's are NOT America's future!

[Jambo]

Why are you worrying about something you have NO control over......a free economic system will take care of it self.....when the price of gas/oil gets too high to stand, someone will come up with alternatives....forcing alternatives is what the government is VERY good at, and typically screws up.....let the free market decide.....the free market is ALWAYS best at this kind of stuff....it's pretty simple....AND you shouldn't worry yourself over it
AND I didn't say "do nothing" I said let the dreamers and thinkers and entrepreneur come up with ideas, WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT.....and, they will, AND they will make millions and millions, and then, someone will try to take it away from them because "it's not fair"

I'm not worrying about it at all - I'm not the one who started this thread. I'm only trying to counter misinformation.

 

[Jambo]

I very seriously doubt that people in Alabama, in any meaningful numbers, are converting to EV's.

My ride was mostly miserable because of the traffic that I encountered. Once I got off the main highway, I put the top down, and very much enjoyed my drive on the back roads. ( the seats are thin, but I think a aftermarket seat pad will make the next, and hopefully last drive to Mississippi, much more bearable. )

My 6 hour drive would have turned into a seven hour drive if I had a EV, waiting a charger at Buc-ee's. Now that I think about it, I would have no idea where to charge my EV, before I left the hotel to return to Atlanta. Adding even more time to my return trip.

Did I mention that put the top down? I've gotten to the point where I seriously hate driving my car with the top up. And I was getting about 34 smiles per gallon, at about 70 mph. And I didn't have any range anxiety.

Internal combustion engines, on the highway are where they are most efficient and use the least fuel to maintain speed. Unlike a EV, that excels in city stop and go traffic, it uses a lot of battery to maintain highway speeds.

You are correct that you would have had to stop to recharge, but only for 15 minutes or so with a super charger.

But, if you commute to work and had a charger at home you would never have to stop during the week.

I have a colleague who lives in The Netherlands. He just bought an EV this year and we were talking about it yesterday. He just took his annual "holiday" with a stay in Paris. His drive was six hours and he made it without stopping. He said he'll never by a benzene (gasoline) fueled car again.

Now, of course his gasoline prices are about $8.00 a gallon (estimated from the price per liter), so I'm sure that has something to do with it.

 

[thevalueman]

I'm not worrying about it at all - I'm not the one who started this thread. I'm only trying to counter misinformation.

"misinformation"=anything someone else doesn't agree with.....

 

[basstracker89]

You are correct that you would have had to stop to recharge, but only for 15 minutes or so with a super charger.

But, if you commute to work and had a charger at home you would never have to stop during the week.

I have a colleague who lives in The Netherlands. He just bought an EV this year and we were talking about it yesterday. He just took his annual "holiday" with a stay in Paris. His drive was six hours and he made it without stopping. He said he'll never by a benzene (gasoline) fueled car again.

Now, of course his gasoline prices are about $8.00 a gallon (estimated from the price per liter), so I'm sure that has something to do with it.

With my last job I was only home 4 or 5hrs a night. So not enough time to charge with a 104mi round trip daily. I'm sure you'll argue that........

 

[Stampede]

Man and dog die after being trapped in Corvette

Damn those cars with Internal Combustion Engines! They're all death traps!

Seriously, this problem isn't ICE or EV, it's "let's design the doors to need electrical power to open".

You had to really dig to find that one...from 2015.

Agreed - there should always be an easy to use/find emergency latch. Or just make the door handles plain old manual ones, that don't need any power to work.

Just shared the link for the diehard cybertruck fans that were gushing over them previously. The vaunted cybertruck was wrecked and....caught on fire. bUt TeSlA sToCk iS uP!

 

[H2O MAN]

 

[basstracker89]

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You don't want to procreate with that.......

 

[Jambo]

"misinformation"=anything someone else doesn't agree with.....

Sometimes "misinformation" is actually misinformation.

For instance, the pervasive opinion that EVs spontaneously catch fire. However, a study done by online car insurance marketplace, AutoinsuranceEZ, using NTSB data, found that EVs have the lowest rate of fires; however, once they start a battery fire they are almost impossible to put out.

Which type of car is most likely to catch fire?

We're all allowed to have opinions, but facts are facts. I try to point out facts, although I will admit that my opinion sometimes squeezes in.

 

[Jambo]

You had to really dig to find that one...from 2015.

Agreed - there should always be an easy to use/find emergency latch. Or just make the door handles plain old manual ones, that don't need any power to work.

Just shared the link for the diehard cybertruck fans that were gushing over them previously. The vaunted cybertruck was wrecked and....caught on fire. bUt TeSlA sToCk iS uP!

I didn't really have to dig, I just did an internet search. It was proof that GM was making stupid interior design choices long before Tesla.

But the point is that this discussion is about EV propulsion technology, not bad design decisions with doors, not body panels that might not fit well, not failures with auto drive, not questionable style choices like the Cybertruck.

I, for one, don't care for Tesla's "Instrument Panel" of just a big touch screen tablet. However, I recently drove a Ford SUV that had the same thing for climate controls - I hated it. Give me dials, knobs, switches.

But those are style choices not directly related to EV power train vs. ICE power train.

 

[Jambo]

With my last job I was only home 4 or 5hrs a night. So not enough time to charge with a 104mi round trip daily. I'm sure you'll argue that........

I've always said that EVs are not for everyone, at least with the technology today.

With that long of a drive you would have had to use a supercharger station probably every other day, meaning a 15-20 minute stop, which is admittedly longer than stopping for gas. I don't know charging rates, so I don't know which would be cheaper.

I used to have a job that was an 84 mile drive, one way. Current EV technology would not be a great match in that case, although I had a house and could have done it with recharging every night. However, today my commute is 21 miles; I could easily do that with even today's state of EV technology, recharging at home once a week or so. Having to charge on my way to Panama City Beach on vacation would suck, but it would be offset by never having to stop at all during my normal work week.

I will say that my colleague in The Netherlands has a 65 mile commute, one way, 130 mile round trip, and he makes it work somehow. I didn't get into the details when I was talking to him, but I suspect there's a free to use charger at work. That would make an EV very attractive when compared to what they pay for gasoline. I don't have that benefit.