Forest fires by a Ted Nugent

[Barbwire]

You guys certainly know a lot about old wood.....

At least it is not puddy.

 

[Ringleader]

I don't say this very often, stop being RICHARD.... heres two maps maybe you can read...

Current California wildfires....

Proposed rapid rail system...

Now, my map reading genius...are there any similarities?

Erase Paradise from the map. Point made Geezer.

 

[geezer]

Oh, I don't know....

 

[Spikey]

Spikey bet you never guessed this thread would have all this drama

I’ve not really been keeping up with it , but , OMG the drama . Went back and read it all and it’s great ! Surprised it didn’t get moved to Brackish Waters ! But in my heart I think I’ve done good by getting everyone involved in a stimulating and most insightful conversation ! And to think I posted this cause I really like the Nuge !!!

 

[Bear44]

Scientific data to back up the rangers claims?

Doubtful as there have been numerous studies indicating no relevance to beetle population explosions before or after fires to an extent that it would exacerbate the fires

If one had actual knowledge of just how difficult it is to manage a controlled burn in these areas you describe then it would seen that the theory here is in fact unfathonable to predict the desired intent without having a fire escalate into an unmanageable situation

I just love how many seem to have actual fire-fighting experience in these areas.Even here in Ga,especially the mountains they are seldom if ever utilized due to the concern of them becoming unmanageable

Controlled burning is an acceptable practice in areas that are and can be deemed manageable,but the mountains and valleys of the northwest pacific and other areas prone to high winds and difficult terrain usually make efforts impossible to control or predict,nice try tho conflating the 2 by using your ranger analogy even tho it is very weak.

FWIW I worked for the Florida Forestry Service runnin a D-5 for several yrs in my youth cutting breaks and have a lot more knowledge than Nugent has in his whole body regarding fire suppresion in my right hand. We did controlled burns on a regular basis,but then again it is flat and easier to maintain

If one doesn't have the intellect to see the correlation between the warming trends and expanded growth patterns of beetles over the yrs then they are doomed to see these situations happening,even here in Ga. the pine beetle population is growing and expanding,but they spray and deforrest areas that are subject to infestation with little use of fire as a inhibitor as there is no known correlation between the 2,smh

I remember hearing 30 plus years ago that the environmentalist's "protection" of the foresters would cause massive forest fires one day. This was well before any of this crap about global warming. It appears that day has arrived.

You are correct that you can't do controlled burns after the fuel supply has built up. That's why the forest service was pushing to do them well before it had a chance to become dangerous. In some areas (California) they were overruled and now communities are paying the price for the good feels the environmentalists got by preventing the educated professionals from doing their job.

If I was a resident of one of these burned out areas of California I would be going after every single environmentalist group that had blocked a forest management plan in my area.

 

[Bear44]

You guys certainly know a lot about old wood.....

Well, it does require proper care and feeding.

 

[WinstonSmith]

I think all of this was a plot by Trump to burn California to the ground to get rid of the illegal immigrants.

 

[xlr8ngn]

I laugh when I hear man made global warming. Then they talk about CO2, then I look it up and it is recorded in ppm. So 400ppm of CO2 is creating an insulating blanket over the earth and causing it to warm? Sounds like it could be bad?...... rely on people's ignorance much?...... it is total bullwax. 400ppm is the same as .04% and the same as a pimple on an elephant's butt.. The enviro wacko's are claiming .04% of the atmosphere is causing all this global weather instability, warming, cooling, change......... No, it is that giant burning heat lamp in the sky we call the sun that creates life for us causing change. It is not static, it has small variations in its output over time and it is by far by 100x the main cause of changes in the weather and temperature on the earth.

 

[BIKER13]

Spikey bet you never guessed this thread would have all this drama

1 clown in the punch bowl ? hell that aint drama thats ________.

 

[Spikey]

I laugh when I hear man made global warming. Then they talk about CO2, then I look it up and it is recorded in ppm. So 400ppm of CO2 is creating an insulating blanket over the earth and causing it to warm? Sounds like it could be bad?...... rely on people's ignorance much?...... it is total bullwax. 400ppm is the same as .04% and the same as a pimple on an elephant's butt.. The enviro wacko's are claiming .04% of the atmosphere is causing all this global weather instability, warming, cooling, change......... No, it is that giant burning heat lamp in the sky we call the sun that creates life for us causing change. It is not static, it has small variations in its output over time and it is by far by 100x the main cause of changes in the weather and temperature on the earth.

Yeah , but you gotta give it to Al Gore ! He “ invented “ it and has made a REALLY great living out of it !