Forest fires by a Ted Nugent

[Bear44]

^^^^^Oil industry mouthpiece,highly paid to promote distortion,lol

I never claimed to be the GW messiah,but in many many years of seeing transitional species growth from tropical plants to temperate zones that they should not be in is conclusive and undeniable,you might beg to differ.I get that, but the evidence is here already,new invasive species of plant and fauna dispute the so called emperical evidence that there is no global warming,smh

I don't think many people dispute GW. What the dispute is are the causes and the rate. If human activity has any effect at all, it's minuscule and the rate at which it's happening is much slower than the alarmists have claimed.

The actual rate of warming has never even come close to what the alarmist's projections have been. That's simple, measurable and provable fact. There has always been natural climate change and there always will be. The climate has never been completely stable.

 

[WinstonSmith]

^^^^^Oil industry mouthpiece,highly paid to promote distortion,lol

I never claimed to be the GW messiah,but in many many years of seeing transitional species growth from tropical plants to temperate zones that they should not be in is conclusive and undeniable,you might beg to differ.I get that, but the evidence is here already,new invasive species of plant and fauna dispute the so called emperical evidence that there is no global warming,smh

What bear44 said. No one is disputing we are in a warming period. What is in dispute is whether man is responsible, the touted disastrous effects of the warming, and whether man needs to change behavior in order to effect the warming/cooling. The science doesnt back up mans negative impact on our climate. It doesnt show anything but our spot in the natural fluctuation of temperature the earth is constantly going through. It was this warm in the days of Rome, went through a cooling period in the early middle ages, warmed up again through the renaissance, cooled again, then got warm again and so on. We got so warm in the 30's we had massive dust bowls in the plains. And that was well before the CO2 "crisis". The warming period is actually working well to our advantage. The earth is greening up massively helping us produce a massive amount of food. This is largely in part to increased amounts of CO2. CO2 is plant food. Combined with the .5 degree (yes an average of .5 degree rise is all we are seeing) the earth is now producing a massive amount of beneficial vegetation. The rain forests are actually expanding, our grasslands are expanding, more algae in the oceans, etc. All of these are good things as we have a much higher population to support. The last thing we need to do is panic about the natural cycles of the earth, place blame in the wrong spot, and allow eggheads to stick our foot where it doesnt belong by artificially messing with our natural ecosystem. This has the potential to cause disastrous unintended consequences. It ain't broke. Dont try and fix it. Politicians have successfully hijacked the issue for political gain. It's easy to get people upset about the weather because people are always unhappy with it. Politics 101. Find something a large portion of the population is always unhappy with, make it any issue, blame it on your opposition, present yourself as the person with ideas on how to solve or improve it, and ride the support you receive to power. Dont buy into the hype. Being educated keeps you from becoming a tool of those that are trying to pursue an agenda.

 

[tommyt654]

Here,lemme fix that for you

"Being miseducated keeps you a tool of those that are trying to enforce an agenda of continued fossil fuel usage"

You have your beliefs I have mine .The agriculture industry is the largest contibutor to this massive growth you claim we are having,The tropical forest are not expanding they are in decline golbally,they are turning into savannahs that will not substain ecological growth to substain human life,Grasslands have also been declining as well since they have primarily been replanted for food sources,Algae inthe oceans are nothing more than an ever increasing sign of rampant water pollution.Sorry don't buy your hype either

 

[WinstonSmith]

Here,lemme fix that for you

"Being miseducated keeps you a tool of those that are trying to enforce an agenda of continued fossil fuel usage"

You have your beliefs I have mine .The agriculture industry is the largest contibutor to this massive growth you claim we are having,The tropical forest are not expanding they are in decline golbally,they are turning into savannahs that will not substain ecological growth to substain human life,Grasslands have also been declining as well since they have primarily been replanted for food sources,Algae inthe oceans are nothing more than an ever increasing sign of rampant water pollution.Sorry don't buy your hype either

My statements aren't beliefs. Watch the interview I posted. It was good.

 

[olerambler]

Read some Wildlife mgt books and timber mgt then get back with us. ( you can have Timber cutting and still not effect Trout streams now own private land you only have a 25ft line so u can cut trees build houses etc on it Thats ga law It was 100ft before the law change some Politician had some land he wanted to devolope near a trout stream my guess.

 

[BIKER13]

I am just an old country boy but I know bull **** when I read it

 

[Bear44]

I am just an old country boy but I know bull **** when I read it

Damn you're subtle.

 

[BIKER13]

Damn you're subtle.

yeah its a gift

 

[Bear44]

yeah its a gift

 

[Fear Itself]

Riddle me this Batman( tommyt654 )

How can you preach man made global warming from statistical analysis that is but a knats hair thickness on the evolutionary scale of the Earth? You have data coming out of your ears but seem to use it exclusively for your argument or ignore it completely. Example, you mention invasive fauna. The number one invasive animal in the world is the house cat but it has nothing to do with climate.

You sound educated and I am not here to troll you or show disrespect to your views-but I think many of us realize that the reason Greenland is so named is because it was previously NOT covered in ice in a time period of no cars, jets, fossil fuel power plants and a much lesser total human population.

This big ball we all live on is so much larger in scale than any human or our actions. I once had a professor give an example of this-he took a pointer and positioned it to a place on a large map of North America and given the scale of the map, the pointer covered enough square footage to hold every human on Earth.

Rock on and keep it in perspective.