Got a chrono and my world is shattered

[RamRoddoc]

I'm not sure what powder your using but .44 Magnum 230 grains at just tick over 1000 is close to a target load. Full house ammo should run you up close to or beyond 1,300 FPS (4-inch) for jacketed bullets and some manuals will give specific loadings for Redhawks.

Redhawks are tanks and Super Redhawks are SP Howitzers. They are horrifically overbuilt and able to withstand hard use but not to encourage abuse.

I don't load .44 Magnum in target loads.... What's the purpose unless your want to use a suppressor? Perhaps if recoil sensitive.

Just looking back on 35+ years of reloading and seeing published data on loading data get whittled down so as to assure that no overloads are possible ...

This means that in many cases you have to have a Crono in order to match factory loads, and push published maximum loads. I know you don't believe me, but then take a look at loading manuals publish 10 or more years ago.

The truth is that all manufacturers are terrified of legal liability associated with some numbskull pushing their load data and getting him / her self maimed or killed ... which will result in a lawsuit that will cost a ton of money whether they win or loose. This not only affects the firearms industry but most industrial production in this country.

My 2 cent worth

Yes, I concur as well.

A chronograph is an excellent measure tool to evaluate reloads. I have saved my old reloading data and observed it watered down in some cases ridiculously lower that previous data. Saw it drop again when cup was dropped and psi became the standard measure.


This folks is a 4" S&W model 29-10 with a cylinder full of 240 grain honest 1,300 FPS .44 magnum rounds in it.

This is what it should like after firing it. Note she is not a novice and shoots competition but never had shot a .44 Magnum. The largest caliber pistol was a .45 ACP until a moment later. Pricelesssss

 

[hpurvis]

"Bait & Switch" started out as a criminal enterprise that politicians made legitimate ...
As any LEO was taught to do: "Follow the Money"
There is more profit in "loaded" ammo than "components" (mostly because of the "blood-sucking-legal-community")
TORT reform (limiting lawyer fees) is the key, but will NEVER be enacted!

Well stated my friend. A lot said in a few words. I am also a man of few words and I get looked at funny sometimes too.

 

[gth813x]

The hunt begins as to what other brass I can size down for the 44

 

[dukeyjoe]

Dang, that woman scares me Do you have a picture of the target?

 

[RamRoddoc]

Dang, that woman scares me Do you have a picture of the target?

PM sent.

 

[Clarke123]

I'm not sure what powder your using but .44 Magnum 230 grains at just tick over 1000 is close to a target load. Full house ammo should run you up close to or beyond 1,300 FPS (4-inch) for jacketed bullets and some manuals will give specific loadings for Redhawks.

Redhawks are tanks and Super Redhawks are SP Howitzers. They are horrifically overbuilt and able to withstand hard use but not to encourage abuse.

I don't load .44 Magnum in target loads.... What's the purpose unless your want to use a suppressor? Perhaps if recoil sensitive.

My hat's off to those who enjoy handling one ... they are a real hand canon! Lots of people I know use them for feral hog hunting ... others use bows and a few use spears ... !!

Although I'm over 6' tall and 200 Lbs, I will admit that I didn't find shooting the .44 Magnum a bit pleasant ... at all!

I had a SS 6" Ruger .44 Magnum years ago (I believe it was a Super RedHawk). Very accurate with a 2 X Scope, but shooting it was a "bone-jarring" experience. Insomuch that I found that I was shooting only .44 Special loads from it, I traded it off for something else.

Good Luck with finding components ... but try to be patient as things seem to be coming back in terms of both supply and price ...
AND ... Please (everyone) help us all by NOT BUYING things that you don't actually need ,,, just because it's available ,, there's likely someone out there that actually needs it ... leave it for them!

 

[1006]

My biggest caliber revolver is a 357. I load a 125HP to 1600+ in a six inch Model 28 with W296 and a small rifle primer. The rifle primer helped quite a bit in getting the power. It is fun to shoot. The brass looks fine afterwards.

I once tried to max out some HS7 based loads in another 6inch 357, and could never get the predicted velosity, but the brass looked like the rim was about to tear off. So, i am a believer in the W296 and its twin H110 for maximum power 357 loads.

 

[gth813x]

i will place a jar by the capital building, and those who find the 44 unwieldly please remove your testicles and place them in said jar.

 

[Twitch2120]

if SD/ES numbers are low and accuracy is good who cares what the speed is? plug it into a ballistics program. i dont mind when my numbers are low. my 308 spits 178 AMAX at 2550 with 44.1 gr IMR 4064. a hot load of CFE223 only netted 2600 and accuracy left me wanting.

reloading manuals give me a start number and a number to start looking for pressure. thats it

 

[FredAlert]

I still have my lyman, etc manuals from 10-15 years ago and more ... and the loads are much more conservative than current loads in the hornady manuals ... AND quite alot of the jacketed projectile weights that we're using today didn't exist then.

Sorry, but NO I'M NOT

Just looking back on 35+ years of reloading and seeing published data on loading data get whittled down so as to assure that no overloads are possible ...
This means that in many cases you have to have a Crono in order to match factory loads, and push published maximum loads. I know you don't believe me, but then take a look at loading manuals publish 10 or more years ago.

The truth is that all manufacturers are terrified of legal liability associated with some numbskull pushing their load data and getting him / her self maimed or killed ... which will result in a lawsuit that will cost a ton of money whether they win or loose. This not only affects the firearms industry but most industrial production in this country.

My 2 cent worth