I've trained with Vickers and withcmshoot and for that matter side by side with cmshoot in a Vickers class. For who I'd train with again, it's cmshoot and it isn't close. For a guy to sit around and listen to him tell stories, LAV would get the nod. Take that for what it's worth.
Thanks! FWIW, I outshot Vickers that weekend........I was keeping score. LOL