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Help with this older Walther P38 9mm.

Did the post WWII P38's come with two magazines and holster like the war era p38's did? I read that they would all have matching serial numbers. So if you have the whole set the value is greatly increased.
 
it's probably late 50s-early 60s. This was made before they changed the name to the p1 in 1963 to make it the official german sidearm again

directly after ww2 the french made p38s using some new manufacture parts but mostly parts leftover from the war (so it might have a steel frame) until walther rebuilt their manufacturing plant and started producing p1/p38 with aluminum frame to save money(the aluminum is not the high grade stuff we have today so stick with 115 grain non +p ammo)

in ww2 they used code to state the manufacturer so that the allies couldn't find the production centers a easily

I paid $350 for a post war 70s p1, they don't have the collectors value of the ww2 variation

Hey what year did you pay $350 for your pistol? I'm still trying to get an accurate value on this pistol. If it is one of the '57-'63 production run is it worth much more than the later production runs?
 
Who says only use 115 gr. bullets in it? Where's the citation to some authority on that?
That doesn't make sense to me. The 124 grain bullets, loaded to standard pressures, (Not +P or +P+) should be fine.
My dad was a WWII veteran, and he picked up a captured P38 right after the war, while serving with the then-occupying Allied troops in Germany. All the Americans knew not to use black-bullet submachine gun ammo in these pistols, or any Luger either. But nobody ever said not to shoot 124 grain bullets in them.

I find it hard to believe that even aluminum alloy framed postwar commercial P38s would be so poorly designed that they cannot handle standard, common, ordinary bullet weights like 124 gr. for the 9 x 19 mm round.
 
this is a well designed pistol which still has it's flaws that walther addressed later, the openings image showed a aluminum framed post war p38 with no hex bolt added and a thinner slide so the 115 gr 9mm recommendation was made

Only 115gr tho, never any others? Does it need to be only be fmj, never jhp?

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with the older steel framed p38s they could handle the 124 gr military ammo over time without breaking, the aluminum wasn't as strong so the steel. the feed ramp was designed with fmj in mind but i use shorter, smaller flat tipped 115 gr critical defense with my p1 as it works in even a db9

Hey what year did you pay $350 for your pistol? I'm still trying to get an accurate value on this pistol. If it is one of the '57-'63 production run is it worth much more than the later production runs?

i bought mine this year but as to value i don't know, the ww2 ones are valued more highly for their original steel framed design and their use during the war

Who says only use 115 gr. bullets in it? Where's the citation to some authority on that?
That doesn't make sense to me. The 124 grain bullets, loaded to standard pressures, (Not +P or +P+) should be fine.
My dad was a WWII veteran, and he picked up a captured P38 right after the war, while serving with the then-occupying Allied troops in Germany. All the Americans knew not to use black-bullet submachine gun ammo in these pistols, or any Luger either. But nobody ever said not to shoot 124 grain bullets in them.

I find it hard to believe that even aluminum alloy framed postwar commercial P38s would be so poorly designed that they cannot handle standard, common, ordinary bullet weights like 124 gr. for the 9 x 19 mm round.

walther had to add a hex bolt into the aluminum frame later as the barrel movement would crack the frame over time, and made the slide thicker. the p38 was designed for steel frames so the aluminum frame was a compromise for cost and weight reasons
www.tanfo.de_0_WA_P1_VS_0000.jpg
 
Hey what year did you pay $350 for your pistol? I'm still trying to get an accurate value on this pistol. If it is one of the '57-'63 production run is it worth much more than the later production runs?

just adding another point of reference for you. I paid $375 a year ago for a 1960 P38 (P1) in excellent condition. I would say 350-400 was market for it. Now my Mauser 1944 P38 is probably $1000+
 
this is a well designed pistol which still has it's flaws that walther addressed later, the openings image showed a aluminum framed post war p38 with no hex bolt added and a thinner slide so the 115 gr 9mm recommendation was made



with the older steel framed p38s they could handle the 124 gr military ammo over time without breaking, the aluminum wasn't as strong so the steel. the feed ramp was designed with fmj in mind but i use shorter, smaller flat tipped 115 gr critical defense with my p1 as it works in even a db9



i bought mine this year but as to value i don't know, the ww2 ones are valued more highly for their original steel framed design and their use during the war



walther had to add a hex bolt into the aluminum frame later as the barrel movement would crack the frame over time, and made the slide thicker. the p38 was designed for steel frames so the aluminum frame was a compromise for cost and weight reasons
www.tanfo.de_0_WA_P1_VS_0000.jpg
Thanks for the explanation.

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