How is the milsurp market these days?

[Quacker]

As promised to alleycat here is a pic from my range trip Saturday. The second pic is just for him! If it has a bayonet lug, it has a bayonet!

 

[alleycat]

As promised to alleycat here is a pic from my range trip Saturday. The second pic is just for him! If it has a bayonet lug, it has a bayonet!
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Ooooh yesssss.........


Some good ones there too. What does the socket bayonet fit?

 

[Quacker]

Ooooh yesssss.........


Some good ones there too. What does the socket bayonet fit?

Trapdoor. The other is for a mosin. Haven’t gotten into the antique BP game yet but soon!

 

[alleycat]

Trapdoor. The other is for a mosin. Haven’t gotten into the antique BP game yet but soon!

Be careful my friend...the original US Springfield black powder guns are even more addictive than the trapdoors.

 

[Quacker]

Be careful my friend...the original US Springfield black powder guns are even more addictive than the trapdoors.

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What’s a good model to start with? 1861, 1864? Something affordable and somewhat available to get me in the game

 

[alleycat]

What’s a good model to start with? 1861, 1864? Something affordable and somewhat available to get me in the game

The Springfield 1863, type 2, is where I started. .58cal percussion and parts are still available. None of them are cheap but Pedersoli makes a respectable reproduction if you like that sort of thing. I’d love to have a Tower Enfield .58 someday. The US Springfield flintlocks are amazing but very expensive and it’s hard to find parts for them.

 

[Quacker]

As promised to alleycat here is a pic from my range trip Saturday. The second pic is just for him! If it has a bayonet lug, it has a bayonet!
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The trapdoor patterned terribly and keyholes almost every round. Currently using 0.457 500 grain molds with soft lead. I’m planning on slugging the bore... rifling is good but it’s probably been shot a lot!

Krag patterned beautifully but was shooting 7” high at 50 yds with rear sight on 100 yds. Any idea why it’s shooting so high? Haven’t chronagraphed the 220grain reloads but I don’t think velocity is the problem at 50

 

[Quacker]

The Springfield 1861, type 2, is where I started. .58cal percussion and parts are still available. None of them are cheap but PedersoliI makes a respectable reproduction if you like that sort of thing. I’d love to have a Tower Enfield .58 someday. The US Springfield flintlocks are amazing but very expensive and it’s hard to find parts for them.

I was eventually planning on a US percussion and eventually an original
Flintlock to round out my US service rifle collection. All good info. I’ll need to save a little more... story of my life!

 

[Quacker]

The Springfield 1861, type 2, is where I started. .58cal percussion and parts are still available. None of them are cheap but PedersoliI makes a respectable reproduction if you like that sort of thing. I’d love to have a Tower Enfield .58 someday. The US Springfield flintlocks are amazing but very expensive and it’s hard to find parts for them.

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Beautiful!

 

[bulletpaluza]

The trapdoor patterned terribly and keyholes almost every round. Currently using 0.457 500 grain molds with soft lead. I’m planning on slugging the bore... rifling is good but it’s probably been shot a lot!

Krag patterned beautifully but was shooting 7” high at 50 yds with rear sight on 100 yds. Any idea why it’s shooting so high? Haven’t chronagraphed the 220grain reloads but I don’t think velocity is the problem at 50

7" high at 50 is 100% about right. Remember back when that rifle was made they were shooting across fields at 250 to 300+ yards that rifles zero is probably 200 yards. It wasnt really a thing to be shooting at 50 yards in 1870s or really pre WWI. QCB Had not been inverted yet.

The key hole problem could be worn born, to soft of lead, to slow of a load ext.