What I don't understand is the apparent obsession with intentionally trying to aggravate another ODT member. Maybe I am not privy to all the facts here but it sure seems like it to me. Quite frankly I find it childish, and the digression from the original thread topic is frustrating to say the least.
Maybe you could spare us the agony and take it to a PM format.
People say this, but facts are non derailed threads will have 20 responses tops, most of them less than that.
Derailed **** shows go on forever until the OP or mod shuts them down. People love a train wreck whether they want to admit it or not.
Or maybe you really wanted to read about some dudes desire to be accepted in his skinny jeans and accompanying mediocre physic. Who knows.