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Keltec snorts a big ol line of the booger snow and said go ahead and outlaw detachable mags lol I wouldn’t buy one but love the middle finger to the states floating the dumb idea that magazines are the issue
 
What? Is this your attemp to muddy waters and confuse people?

A rifle, chambered for a small pistol cartridge, is a complete waste. Get an APC, GHM, mp5, etc ,etc, etc. If you carry a full rifle, you may as well get the benefits that rifle cartridge provide.

If your argument is about range linking only, then whatever. It's a weak argument, but at least it's just for range fun. The funny part is, that the proponents of such stupidness always discuss them in terms of "deep carry," "back-up gun," Yada Yada Yada. In which any case of use for those is defense. I.e. lives are on the line. Ie, the user has handcuffed their effectiveness by neutering their rifle. You want discreet? Carry a handgun.

Now you're advocating $2000 to $3000 "operator" type weapons?

I'd say a good number of folks interested in PCCs have economy in mind. A Kel Tec Sub2K can be had for less than $400. It works. Or, for that matter, a Hi Point Carbine. Also works. People with slightly higher budgets might opt for a Ruger PC9, S&W FPC, or Beretta CX4.

My PCC is a Rossi 92 in 357, which has reliable deer killing power with my hand loads out to about 150 yards. I can also shoot that gun for half the cost of bulk 22LR. Light. Flat. Handy.

All of these PCCs offer much better accuracy potential in the hands of average shooters than a handgun. These are useful weapons to different kinds of people for different purposes. Home defense. Hobby shooting. Small and medium game hunting. Farm and ranch use. How many people do you imagine carry an MP5 in a saddle rig or UTV?

No reason not to buy what works for you with your own hard earned money. Don't call other people wrong because their wants or needs are not yours.
 
Now you're advocating $2000 to $3000 "operator" type weapons?

I'd say a good number of folks interested in PCCs have economy in mind. A Kel Tec Sub2K can be had for less than $400. It works. Or, for that matter, a Hi Point Carbine. Also works. People with slightly higher budgets might opt for a Ruger PC9, S&W FPC, or Beretta CX4.

My PCC is a Rossi 92 in 357, which has reliable deer killing power with my hand loads out to about 150 yards. I can also shoot that gun for half the cost of bulk 22LR. Light. Flat. Handy.

All of these PCCs offer much better accuracy potential in the hands of average shooters than a handgun. These are useful weapons to different kinds of people for different purposes. Home defense. Hobby shooting. Small and medium game hunting. Farm and ranch use. How many people do you imagine carry an MP5 in a saddle rig or UTV?

No reason not to buy what works for you with your own hard earned money. Don't call other people wrong because their wants or needs are not yours.
Not a bit. There are plenty of options. Pick your poison ar varient. Stribog. Scorpion. PSA this and that. There are tons of options out there.

It's ok to be poor financially. Don't follow it up with poor decisions.
 
This gun looks like a valuable self-defense option in states where you can have a semi automatic pistol that holds 20 rounds in its INTERNAL, FIXED MAGAZINE,
as long as it doesn't use a detachable magazine.

Now, Let's get the ammo companies to come up with a new round, necked-up to .32 caliber, but on the same 28 mm case.

I'd rather have a 7.65 mm soft point bullet than a tiny little 5.7 mm pill.

I'm assuming that you could push an 85 grain 32 caliber round nose soft point or hollowpoint bullet from a 4.5 inch barrel pistol at 1400 ft./s and have it hit with about 370 foot- pounds of kinetic energy.
 
The no magazine is more about making the pistol smaller and cheaper to manufacturer than gun laws in ban states. Stop the fudd nonsense.
 
Sure.... that's why the website makes such a big deal about saying it has no magazine. Only stripper clips.

Your mind is going back 35 years to the Grendel P10. This is a different gun for a new era, different market, a different motivation for its unique design.
 
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