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No More Bump Stocks

Here's my .02

I own machine guns. Both transferable and posties. I don't even own a bumpstock. (But I do have a STL file to print one if I so desire) I personally have owned a bump stock in the past. I just wanted to see if I could make it work on a S&W15-22. I did. And after that I grew tired of it and sold it. It was really more of exercise in making something not intended to work. All that said, I completely disagree with Trump and his ban on this. I vocalize at every attempt against the fudds out there saying so what. It's not a matter of fighting for a "gimmick part". It's a matter of fighting for the principal of things. Because come next tragedy, they'll say we don't need 30rd mags, or binary triggers, or VFGs, or pistol grips, or you name it. Eventually it'll get to a point that "no one needs a semi auto". Basically it's how to boil a frog. Just keep slowly warming things up.

The NRA completely lost me earlier this year from their caving on it. Negotiating Rights Away.
I agree with your NRA comment. But I question how you/we fight it.
 
^^^^ exactly and where are the demonstrations? The pushback? Yeah only others do that. we just bend over take it up the ass and complain on a web site.
That's been my point the whole time. The douchebag Antifa criminals have a better ground game than we do and that's pretty sad.
 
Do you also think something along these lines when some wannabe operators start crying when certain politicians start talking about banning their "assault rifles". After all, if you really want to operate you should join the Army, right? One day our gracious masters are going to get ticked off at all these folks and ban everything but muskets.

After all, hunters only need one shot, right? Nobody has a need for anything else, right?

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
-Martin Niemöller

So true. Here’s an insightful read.

“They thought they were free the Germans 1933-1945 Milton Mayor”


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And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.


Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
 
My point is the frog is not boiling but will eventually and it looks to be sooner rather than later when it will be too late for any meaningful reprisal - Im starting to be of the opinion that until everyone is equally uncomfortable nothing will be done by those content to be infringed upon - That will never happen with the gradual low heat currently being applied - Giving it up piecemeal is still giving it up - Until there is a substantial resistance it will continue - Why wouldn’t it ? It’s working - Our only hope may be forcing the heat to high so everyone catches on to the intended destination well before we arrive
This has shown no sign of working. The problem is, you are not one of the cooks and don't control the stove. You might be able to make it hotter for a moment, but the only outcome will be a hotter pot. As soon as the frogs begin noticing the increase, the cooks will slow the increase for the moment (but never reduce the temperature!), until the frogs quiet down again. We've been subject to this for over a century, and not just related to 2A, and the cooks are very patient.
But keep up the good fight - meant honestly, not facetiously. Best we can hope for (in my opinion at least) is to somehow outlast them.
A truly libertarian philosophy with no capitalized “L” intended - I just want to be left alone as anyone naturally does - Uninfringed and unencumbered by idiots preferably
Amen to that.

Closest thing I've seen recently to a response is the original "tea party movement" (not the "Tea Party" that it became!). Of course, it got perverted by the Powers That Be because it didn't fit any of their plans (couldn't be controlled).
 
i think that the ban is us losing a little liberty. However when you guys say its an infringement on our 2A rights thats a bit of a stretch. 2A says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. no matter what way you look at it a bump stock is not a firearm. its an accessory that modifies one. you wouldnt consider a lift kit an automobile would you?
 
This has shown no sign of working. The problem is, you are not one of the cooks and don't control the stove. You might be able to make it hotter for a moment, but the only outcome will be a hotter pot. As soon as the frogs begin noticing the increase, the cooks will slow the increase for the moment (but never reduce the temperature!), until the frogs quiet down again. We've been subject to this for over a century, and not just related to 2A, and the cooks are very patient.
But keep up the good fight - meant honestly, not facetiously. Best we can hope for (in my opinion at least) is to somehow outlast them.

Amen to that.

Closest thing I've seen recently to a response is the original "tea party movement" (not the "Tea Party" that it became!). Of course, it got perverted by the Powers That Be because it didn't fit any of their plans (couldn't be controlled).



OK Grab a roll of Reynolds wrap and bare with me a moment

I don’t believe any of these to be organic

I believe the tea party movement was never subverted - It was a designed creation to steer a portion of the population that couldn’t be steered otherwise (Just like Trump is now) Those two groups were created to manipulate dangerous to “them” ideals and guide them along a narrative more suitable to their goals & to shine a light on the true “problem children” within - Identifying categorizing and classifying those not likely to go quietly into the night and identifying those more likely to be retrainable as detainee camp occupants

The tea party - BLM - Alex Jones - ISIS - Trump - NRA - CNN - NBC - FOX - CBS - ANTIFA - Q - Trump - Are all controlled opposition participating in a predictive programming NWO plot controlling the knobs & don’t think “they” are not evaluating their puppets to know what they have within their unknowingly controlled groups

It’s rather easy to spot the non-shills and those that have not been compromised

Kennedy - King - William Cooper - Robert Finicum . . . . .

Dead is the giveaway

They are also getting better at eliminating “problems” sooner rather than later before they gain any real notoriety or following considering that their publicly known unwithering opposition seems a less frequent theme as time goes on - They don’t kill them all as discrediting works just as well these days - Look at what happens to whistleblowers of the corrupt system

Cooper warned of round ups (probably during a holiday while we are all at home)

I believe they modified that plan further and it won’t include holidays at all — They will do a “patriot” pick up when we are all ordered to shelter in place from a presidential alert claiming to be one where they are apprehending “deep state” operatives or such

I suspect that this will coincide with or around my theory of the “primer surprise” being made known

You know it’s not paranoia when they really are out to get you

The government is not watching me anymore

Of course they’re not watching me any less either

By the way the black helicopters aren’t black anymore

They’re dark gray

OK you can now safely take your aluminum foil skullcap off I’m done

For now . . . .
 
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