You forget the atf doesn’t just enforce laws they make them up as they go… shameless merch promotion I designed these a while back lmao
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ODT After 05/20 - A question for Okuma
- Thread starter Gingerbeard Man
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The problem is THEY think it's law. So when they strip you from your home and family and drown you in legal fees it won't matter even if you come out victorious in the end.
There's not a single member on ODT that has challenged the ATF with force so the above is the likely scenario. That's the reality for 99% here. The other 1% have nothing to lose except their life in a show of force.
So to
BIKER13
's statement, yes, folks will comply because their family and their lives matter more than being ODT's martyr that will be lost to the ether or become an eternal ATF meme which means **** all to those that matter.
**** the ATF
Not concerned in the least....
ODT **** is priced so high it's guaranteed not to sell !!
ODT **** is priced so high it's guaranteed not to sell !!
Are you still not allowing pistol braces? There is currently a nation wide injunction, actually there are currently multiple nation wide injunctions on the pistol brace ban. The first one was granted in Nov 9th 2023 and the most recent was March 29th 2024. As it stands right now, the pistol brace ban is dead in the water as the ATF will be tied up in court for years battling state injunction after state injunction. For now and probably for the next couple of years pistol braces are legal.
Get outta here with all that reason and readin' an such! Don't you know we're supposed to be panickin'?
I mean where is the hype? We're supposed to be freakin' out over this, what's wrong with you? It's the 'end of gun collecting" and the end of the ODT and the end of gun shows! Man, get on the bandwagon!
With your type of post folks are likely to calm down and listen to reason for a change and we cannot have that.
I’m gonna double down with you on that **** em
Decremental reduction of rights is what the ATF does (just like a majority of government entities), and ambiguity is their primary tool. They write a "definition" with ambiguous verbiage that can be "interpreted" differently on a case by case basis to impose the level of discipline they want at that particular time. The ATF is a great example of the government at its finest... F'em.
I've read the whole thing over the course of a few days, nothing really changes from what the "ruling" had always been. If your sole source of income is resaling or flipping gun on ODT (Lord help you) then maybe there is cause for concern, but for the most part this is how its ALWAYS been. Is it unconstitutional? Of course. The NFA is unconstitutional too, but we huff and get over that as well. The last time Americans REALLY stood up for themselves in any real surmountable way was 1860, and I don't see sucession over this any time soon. Americans need to come together for something real, well-funded, and be willing to take risk to achieve it, until then we will all abide to the power we give them. All in all nothing changes so don't geek out.
