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Please Vote - Considering Major Changes for Classifeds

Would charging non-supporters $1 a month to post in the classifieds hurt the site?

  • Yes, charging $1 a month would hurt the site and is a bad idea.

    Votes: 713 54.5%
  • No, $1 is cheap enough to not lose people over it.

    Votes: 596 45.5%

  • Total voters
    1,309
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Burdy, that was a very nice post. For the most part, I agree with you, but not completely. Unfortunately, you feel as if those who disagree with the proposed change is about the money. For me, and for a lot of those who have posted, it has never been about the money. I can state without hesitation, that the last part of the question, "and is a bad idea" is why I voted the way I did. I feel it is a bad idea based on the plan one of the owners of this site proposed. As I have stated before, the site would be divided between "supporters" and those who pay to sell. Burdy, read back and look at the statements made by "supporters" about those who are not supporters. They completely forget that being a supporter was a choice, not mandatory.
I don't doubt that hard work is involved in running this site. I don't doubt that money needs to be made to keep the site running. I don't even mind your wanting to charge to play and make this a pay site. What I don't like is your comment about being ungrateful. I know you are an owner, but face it man, you provide a service. If disagreeing with you is ungrateful, I am truly ungrateful. Why don't you rethink your plan to make money while dividing the site and come up with a different plan. You want me to thank the owners of this site for providing a service that will no longer be free? Uh, well, thank you for charging me to be on your site. I like the site, have been on the site for years, but not an original member. I don't like being characterized as ungrateful because you think my opposition is about $10. My opposition is that there is a better plan, and I did not just whine about finding a different way, I proposed a plan. Which is something you have not done....yet. Do you really feel you can try and "shame" members into agreeing with you? Maybe you are not as grateful as you should be for those who frequent this site, supporters or not.
 
Burdy, that was a very nice post. For the most part, I agree with you, but not completely. Unfortunately, you feel as if those who disagree with the proposed change is about the money. For me, and for a lot of those who have posted, it has never been about the money. I can state without hesitation, that the last part of the question, "and is a bad idea" is why I voted the way I did. I feel it is a bad idea based on the plan one of the owners of this site proposed. As I have stated before, the site would be divided between "supporters" and those who pay to sell. Burdy, read back and look at the statements made by "supporters" about those who are not supporters. They completely forget that being a supporter was a choice, not mandatory.
I don't doubt that hard work is involved in running this site. I don't doubt that money needs to be made to keep the site running. I don't even mind your wanting to charge to play and make this a pay site. What I don't like is your comment about being ungrateful. I know you are an owner, but face it man, you provide a service. If disagreeing with you is ungrateful, I am truly ungrateful. Why don't you rethink your plan to make money while dividing the site and come up with a different plan. You want me to thank the owners of this site for providing a service that will no longer be free? Uh, well, thank you for charging me to be on your site. I like the site, have been on the site for years, but not an original member. I don't like being characterized as ungrateful because you think my opposition is about $10. My opposition is that there is a better plan, and I did not just whine about finding a different way, I proposed a plan. Which is something you have not done....yet. Do you really feel you can try and "shame" members into agreeing with you? Maybe you are not as grateful as you should be for those who frequent this site, supporters or not.
I think you misunderstood my post. I'm not speaking to those who disagree or agree with the proposed plan. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and reasons and I've heard good feedback from both sides.

I'm speaking to those that find so little utility in this site that $10 a year to post in classifieds ruffles their feathers enough to walk away from the entire sight completely. Those are the ones that I absolutely think are ungrateful and I'll double down on that statement all day.

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High feedback, Golden legos but not yet a Supporter.

Interesting......

Are you referring to Burdy Burdy ?

The dude co-founded the site with Okuma. I can assure you he's been a supporter longer than literally everyone else here. His supporter badge just says Owner instead of Supporter.
 
Burdy, perhaps I did misunderstand your post. Thank you for replying and spelling out some of the issues I had with your first post. Regardless of the plan the owners decide on using, there will be members who will not like the plan. Some will voice their disagreement, complain and threaten to leave. In my opinion, many of those who disagree, complain and threaten to leave will most likely stay and pay. There will be a small number who will leave, but there are members who decide to leave every day. I believe this will continue regardless of the plan adopted. Now, I have no data to back up that belief, but I also do not have any data to prove my beliefs are wrong.

If you and the other owner decide to charge for selling, I wish that this site would just go ahead and take the next step. Make it a pay site and be done with it. Potential new members can be given temporary use of the site without paying. Then they either pay or leave. Just have everyone who wants to be a member pay. No more supporters, or non-supporters, just members. This makes much more sense to me.
 
Okuma Okuma i think you should do like TRF (TheRolexForum) does it... only let supporters be able to post/view in the classifieds and then let the rest of the site be open to anyone....charge more for the supporter badge. Burdy Burdy
 
Okuma Okuma i think you should do like TRF (TheRolexForum) does it... only let supporters be able to post/view in the classifieds and then let the rest of the site be open to anyone....charge more for the supporter badge. Burdy Burdy
I think that many here enjoy the anonymity of this site, and to that, they are understandability reluctant to get involved....it's a growing concern for many....God only knows what's going to happen once Trump is not around anymore...the very first thing that is likely to go is this site(and others)...all controlled by the "universal background check"...and, I believe that the NRA will go along....they really lack back bone....we all know that. The next thing is....record keeping....are/will we be tracked here, once we become "members" will there be a "list"....all this is goes to the many, flying around the outside, not willing to commit...is there a way we can be assured that our information is safe??? are we "tracked"....will the ATF come knocking at our doors??? does anyone at the ODT have Hillary's knowledge on how to "bleach", and will they???
just some thoughts...
:-)Rocky
 
ATF does not need "information" to come knocking at your door. If they want you, they'll git you. Loads of things can be "found" after entry into your home is forced.

Trump is a "fix NICS" supporter. Trump is in favor of 'Red Flag Laws'. Trump was a supporter of so called "universal background checks", then he walked that back. He would flip on it if he thought it would gain him something.
 
ATF does not need "information" to come knocking at your door. If they want you, they'll git you. Loads of things can be "found" after entry into your home is forced.

Trump is a "fix NICS" supporter. Trump is in favor of 'Red Flag Laws'. Trump was a supporter of so called "universal background checks", then he walked that back. He would flip on it if he thought it would gain him something.

We just had one of the possibly two last sessions of the Georgia legislature where Republicans control both houses and the governor's office (similar to the first two years of the Trump administration). What did gun owners get out of either one?

They talk the talk but they sure don't walk the walk.
 
I have avoided this thread because I know my opinion means nothing here. That said I’m going to give it.

My favorite deals are with the 1 post new guys who are only here to sell a gun or two. They found the ODT looking for free classifieds and it met that criteria. I would bet that’s how a bunch of us ended up here.

That’s how I ended up here in a round about way. Had I had to pay to post way back when I was looking to sell a few guns, I would have never signed up.

Sure, the regulars will pay, but how many new members will never sign up because they are not willing to pay to post on an unfamiliar forum?

I think it’s a great idea for raising funds, but I also think it will stifle growth.
 
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