Question(s) for Military Personnel

[militaryrednek]

Pretty much. It depends also on exactly how close it is to you too. It's a distinct "crack" but I guess a fire cracker is a good reference.

If you really want to know just find a big field with a ditch in it, lay down in said ditch, and have some one shoot over you. Yes, that is crazy. Yes, I'm a Marine. You can also hear it by shooting supersonic rounds through a can.

An RPG sounds like a cross between a giant Roman candle/bottle rocket. I've heard it from both sides and it's MUCH cooler sounding when it's out bound. Lmao.

everything sounds cooler when its outbound haha!

 

[wnchstrtnfldvlle]

Yeah man... you usually never ever qualify with optics.. 300 meters is iron sight range.

It all depends.
Some units have guys zero the back up iron sights, and then switch immediately to their optic, zero that and then qualify with the optic on the pop-up qual range. It really just depends on the unit's budget and timeframe for training.

Budgets are the big killer, along with the crappy marksmanship training they are getting in basic nowadays. They get to the line companies and it takes some of these guys 60 or more rounds to zero their rifle, with a dam red dot optic. unbelievable! Most of the guys that can shoot will just get their expert, and then give the rest of their ammo to the sorry shooters to get more practice.

 

[mkdhotrod]

It all depends.
Some units have guys zero the back up iron sights, and then switch immediately to their optic, zero that and then qualify with the optic on the pop-up qual range. It really just depends on the unit's budget and timeframe for training.

Budgets are the big killer, along with the crappy marksmanship training they are getting in basic nowadays. They get to the line companies and it takes some of these guys 60 or more rounds to zero their rifle, with a dam red dot optic. unbelievable! Most of the guys that can shoot will just get their expert, and then give the rest of their ammo to the sorry shooters to get more practice.

So true.. I remember when my unit got Aimpoints for our rifles.. I was WAY to excited for something like that lol

 

[wnchstrtnfldvlle]

I wish we would have put more emphasis on iron sights, and true marksmanship. Sadly the best training that I have received in the military was a course that I had to beg to go to, and it was only a week long. It was the CQM course given by the Army Marksmanship Unit guys. we got to shoot about 400 rounds per day, and had a good pistol block of instruction as well. Only course that I have gotten honor grad in lol.

 

[jimmythegem]

I think what Potenza was saying was go join up and find out first hand, not go ask a recruiter. He wasn't being a dick guys.

Potenza served "over 40 years ago" which puts him in during Viet Nam era.

In those days, we were spat upon and cursed at while walking thru airports by the "left winging Jane Fonda Glory Whores".

Disrespect for our service was the norm.

Things have changed since then and now the military are treated with the respect they deserve.

Perhaps, Potenza was a little blunt, perhaps not. He certainly deserves all the respect now for what he didn't get back then.

I, for one, understand were Potenza is coming from. I don't think he meant to be a dick either. Just a little bluntness which is ok by me.

Thank you Potenza for your service SIR and thank you all my military brothers and sisters.

 

[88mbrewer]

The army has stopped using the M9 as much, but I'm in the army now and when I was at basic we were giver our m16 or m4 around the third week so we could get used to carrying them around. the m16's we had we either fn or colt made and the m4's were all colts I carried the fn m16 and it was an great gun. It wasn't as accurate as my rock river I bought prior to joining but you have to think the gun had been used by many different soldiers and never once did I have a problem out of the fn. As for the m9 the army is slowly moving away from it because of the safety being on the slide and it malfunctioning in the sand of Afghanistan and Iraq.

 

[zenmineo]

when I went to basic most of our m16 a2's were a random assortment of manufactures. I noticed most people had FN 16's and only a few people had colts

 

[kuduboss]

"like a rat on acid"? "find out for yourself"? "you'll get the best info from a recruiter"?
Really? Jaybees asked a legitimate question, maybe a little long winded and animated but your reply and Potenza's reply were unnecessary. Here's a couple of points I'd like to add to this thread.

1. Old school means "insight" to me and not just "old and cranky".
2. "Hero" Not all veterans are heroes. Patriots, maybe, but everytime the word "hero" is used it diminishes the impact of what it really should mean. I know some heroes, the real deals, and they are head and shoulders above being couragious and brave. Their actions are legend. Save that expression for people who deserve it and earned it.
3. You don't owe me anything. Classmates and people my age all want to thank me for my service. It's really not necessary. They hated us then and I don't believe them now. Stick with your choices, I did and so did 58,200 other guys. PTSD? Yeah maybe a touch but a happier misfit as the years roll by that I made the right decision.
4. They need to reinstate the draft. It doesn't have to be combat arms related but service to the country. Male and female.
5. What if WWII vets had supported Vietnam vets like we support the Irag and Afghanistan vets? Can you imagine if the greatest generation would have stood up for us "baby killers" and "drug addicted losers". We were winning when I left.
6. A chopper is a motorcycle.
7. M 14
8. None of these things have anything to do with the initial question.

The thing I like best about this site is the chance to ask questions and to get informed answers ad nauseam. I expect the smart ass answers and normally like your sense of humor until it gets disrespectful. Let's keep it that way. Merry Christmas.

 

[MacTavish]

In basic training the earliest you get a rifle is after the Drill Instructors are sure you over the shock of being ripped away from your Mama's apron strings and will not go bat $&!^ crazy.



















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[Indirect Fire]

5. What if WWII vets had supported Vietnam vets like we support the Irag and Afghanistan vets? Can you imagine if the greatest generation would have stood up for us "baby killers" and "drug addicted losers". We were winning when I left.

I remember sitting in a VFW too many years ago, and having a friend a couple of years older than me ask that same question. It was based on the sorry ass welcome that he and allot of Vietnam veterans received from their fellow WWII veterans that ran the place. It was my first and only experience with the VFW and soon to be his last.

Interesting comment

Merry Christmas