I’d wager that there’s zero LEO or military personnel who’s been issued a P320 and has heard nothing. Just a guess.
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Sig Carry? Safe or Dangerous?
- Thread starter Misterk42
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Heard nothing? It’s all over social media
Reading comprehension is important
Don’t get me wrong. I read your post that’s where my question arose, you said. I’d wager that there’s zero LEO or military personnel who’s been issued a P320 and has heard nothing. Just a guess.
“Who’s been issued a P320 and has heard nothing”? What have they heard nothing? What would they hear???
I find you confusing
Just figured I'd check the chat side of the forum because as expected, noticed a ton of P320's on sale lately. 
Stay safe out there, friends.
Stay safe out there, friends.
1. Appendix carry is not ideal. Strange to me that it's become a fad. It does against everything my LE instructors taught us back in the day. There is a reason they call it a SIDEARM... anyway.
2. I dumped my beloved P-320 M17 last week. After reading the FBI report and seeing the Airman get killed with his own pistol I just couldn't do it anymore. It will have a tremendous ripple effect. I suggest you read the FBI report. Essentially - it is absolutely possible that a random combination of movements will make the SIG go off on its own. I swapped it out for an FN 509 Tactical over the weekend. We'll see if I like it.
3. You've already got the answer in your head. You've lost confidence in the weapon. It is what it is. Get something else and move on.
2. I dumped my beloved P-320 M17 last week. After reading the FBI report and seeing the Airman get killed with his own pistol I just couldn't do it anymore. It will have a tremendous ripple effect. I suggest you read the FBI report. Essentially - it is absolutely possible that a random combination of movements will make the SIG go off on its own. I swapped it out for an FN 509 Tactical over the weekend. We'll see if I like it.
3. You've already got the answer in your head. You've lost confidence in the weapon. It is what it is. Get something else and move on.
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From Bruce Gray at Grayguns.
Screw him and Grayguns....
"So much emotion, Even to the point of posting the Airman’s picture in an attempt to provoke an emotional response. That is just Disgraceful.
I am retiring from the Army after 34 years of service, 14 years as a competitor and smalls arms trainer, and 8 years experience with the P320/M17.
I have been involved in training thousands of Soldiers and have personally trained several hundred on the M17 platform over the years and witnessed it take all kinds of abuse. I have seen parts break, I have seen rear sights come off, and I have seen my fair share of Negligent discharges by Privates, Sergeants, and even a 2 Star General. I have seen all the videos, heard all the stories, and read more than my fair share of completely biased and ignorant posts on both sides.
Is there an issue? I am not convinced yet. It is tragic that a U.S. Airmen lost his life, hell it’s tragic when anyone is injured from a firearms related incident. But the loss or injuries sustained does not prove a mechanical defect.
Some of the most respected Professional Gunsmiths in the industry are right now tearing this thing apart and trying to find out if there is an actual mechanical defect in the P320 mechanism and if so would try to work with Sig to fix the problem. But thats not good enough for the Living room commandos and 50 round a month “competitive shooters” on these boards.
Fact is, there is a group of people on this board and many others who really don’t care if there is an actual problem, they just want to up their post counts by calling people “Sig Shills” or “Fanboys”, and that’s fine. Live on the boards all you want, trust rumors and made up stories by people trying to cover down on their careers because of making a mistake, or having a momentary lapse of attention.
I will trust my experiences and wait for the professionals to complete their studies and exhaust every possible scenario to determine an actual cause. I will also wait for the AF to complete their investigation on the Airmen’s death.
After that I will decide the fate of my M17s and M18s moving forward. Fact is, I don’t care either way. Yes, I really enjoy shooting the M17, it is absolutely one of my favorite guns, but if there is a mechanical issue I want it discovered so a it can be remedied.
Thank you B Bruce Gray and
Sig Guy
for your efforts.
Grayguns"
Screw him and Grayguns....
"So much emotion, Even to the point of posting the Airman’s picture in an attempt to provoke an emotional response. That is just Disgraceful.
I am retiring from the Army after 34 years of service, 14 years as a competitor and smalls arms trainer, and 8 years experience with the P320/M17.
I have been involved in training thousands of Soldiers and have personally trained several hundred on the M17 platform over the years and witnessed it take all kinds of abuse. I have seen parts break, I have seen rear sights come off, and I have seen my fair share of Negligent discharges by Privates, Sergeants, and even a 2 Star General. I have seen all the videos, heard all the stories, and read more than my fair share of completely biased and ignorant posts on both sides.
Is there an issue? I am not convinced yet. It is tragic that a U.S. Airmen lost his life, hell it’s tragic when anyone is injured from a firearms related incident. But the loss or injuries sustained does not prove a mechanical defect.
Some of the most respected Professional Gunsmiths in the industry are right now tearing this thing apart and trying to find out if there is an actual mechanical defect in the P320 mechanism and if so would try to work with Sig to fix the problem. But thats not good enough for the Living room commandos and 50 round a month “competitive shooters” on these boards.
Fact is, there is a group of people on this board and many others who really don’t care if there is an actual problem, they just want to up their post counts by calling people “Sig Shills” or “Fanboys”, and that’s fine. Live on the boards all you want, trust rumors and made up stories by people trying to cover down on their careers because of making a mistake, or having a momentary lapse of attention.
I will trust my experiences and wait for the professionals to complete their studies and exhaust every possible scenario to determine an actual cause. I will also wait for the AF to complete their investigation on the Airmen’s death.
After that I will decide the fate of my M17s and M18s moving forward. Fact is, I don’t care either way. Yes, I really enjoy shooting the M17, it is absolutely one of my favorite guns, but if there is a mechanical issue I want it discovered so a it can be remedied.
Thank you B Bruce Gray and
Sig Guy
for your efforts.Grayguns"
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