Supreme Court Overrules Chevron Doctrine and now The ATF is screwed along with all federal agency's.

[GAgunLAWbooklet]

somebody should tell that commie "cee u next tuesday"
that if it's more efficient to let three-letter agency bureaucrats make and enforce laws without involving congress,
then it's EVEN MORE EFFICIENT to let a single dictator make and enforce laws
without involving Congress, or three-letter agencies.
And no more judicial review, either. Not for any law that serves the public good or public safety.
Those should be exempt from scrutiny by any other branch of government.

 

[NewLeaf]

Because we're dealing with alphabet agencies that govern by their own rules

Now they can get their A$$ sued off , and it be all legal like though. They’ll give just about any idiot a badge nowadays. But yea, the pro2A coffers are filling .

 

[HERMET]

somebody should tell that commie "cee u next tuesday"
that if it's more efficient to let three-letter agency bureaucrats make and enforce laws without involving congress,
then it's EVEN MORE EFFICIENT to let a single dictator make and enforce laws
without involving Congress, or three-letter agencies.
And no more judicial review, either. Not for any law that serves the public good or public safety.
Those should be exempt from scrutiny by any other branch of government.

I'll reluctantly take the Dictator job. I hate it but it's the only hope to save the country.
Just give me 12 months to do what needs to be done and then I'll turn the reins of government back over to the people that are left.

 

[Ken Ford]

Why does it matter if the rules change when they dont follow them in the first place?

Because they will have to follow the letter of the law, when deciding what cases to pursue.
In the pat they have been able to make up “rules and regs” based on very loose interpretations.
Legally speaking, they will no longer be able to interject “opinion” into their enforcement.
Practically speaking…? time will tell.

 

[GAgunLAWbooklet]

Federal agencies can always interject their OPINION into the law, and prefer their own interpretation of a statute, even greatly expanding it (while saying they're just filling-in gaps in the bare-bones framework of the law as passed by Congress.
They can keep doing that up until they lose in a federal court.
And in federal court, even without Chevron deference, the agency will be able to submit evidence and expert testimony that will be very persuasive that the court SHOULD rule on their side (even if the Court no longer "has to" take their side.)

The benefits of the END of CHEVRON deference won't be seen for decades, as every federal agency goes to court over and over again each time they issue a new rule or policy that restricts freedom slightly more than the status quo.

 

[GaBlackNGold]

Federal agencies can always interject their OPINION into the law, and prefer their own interpretation of a statute, even greatly expanding it (while saying they're just filling-in gaps in the bare-bones framework of the law as passed by Congress.
They can keep doing that up until they lose in a federal court.
And in federal court, even without Chevron deference, the agency will be able to submit evidence and expert testimony that will be very persuasive that the court SHOULD rule on their side (even if the Court no longer "has to" take their side.)

The benefits of the END of CHEVRON deference won't be seen for decades, as every federal agency goes to court over and over again each time they issue a new rule or policy that restricts freedom slightly more than the status quo.

In the majority opinion it seems as if they are trying to curb the ability of the bureaucrats to reinterpret by putting a lot of weight on the way the statute was interpreted when it was enacted. The longer that interpretation has stood the more weight it will have. Which seems to bode well for frames and receivers, pistol braces, etc.

"In the construction of a doubtful and ambiguous law, the contemporaneous construction of those who were called upon to act under the law, and were appointed to carry its provisions into effect, is entitled to very great respect."

"Such respect was thought especially warranted when an Executive Branch interpretation was issued roughly contemporaneously with enactment of the statute and remained consistent over time. See Dickson, 15 Pet., at 161; United States v. Alabama Great Southern R. Co., 142 U.S. 615, 621 (1892); National Lead Co. v. United States, 252 U.S. 140, 145–146 (1920). That is because “the longstanding ‘practice of the government’ ”—like any other interpretive aid—“can inform [a court’s] determination of ‘what the law is.’ ”

 

[thevalueman]

can anyone say NY gun laws....how many times do we have to wait for SCOTUS to clear it up...they will continue, and have to be forced to SCOTUS each, and every time...

 

[letusbuyyourcar]

This puts an end to a lot of that. See? It’s good news.

I hope it does. And I want to stay positive about it. But y'all know how it goes. ATF does whatdafuq they wanna do whenever they get ready . Then all the smoke clears and bodies are
moved to the morgue. THEN...they maintain that smug attitude of "Yeah we were wrong. Maybe you can get some lawyers to get it into court in a few years and do something about it.LOL"

 

[letusbuyyourcar]

can anyone say NY gun laws....how many times do we have to wait for SCOTUS to clear it up...they will continue, and have to be forced to SCOTUS each, and every time...

Yeah NY as a whole is just giving both middle fingers to SCOTUS. And until SOMEONE at the political top of that **** hole is held LEGALLY responsible and made a very clear example for the rest then they'll keep right on doing it.

 

[Deleted member 97214]

Because they will have to follow the letter of the law, when deciding what cases to pursue.
In the pat they have been able to make up “rules and regs” based on very loose interpretations.
Legally speaking, they will no longer be able to interject “opinion” into their enforcement.
Practically speaking…? time will tell.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Me? I'll have to be proven wrong.

The point is - the ATF keeps trying **** just to see if it'll stick. They're wasting tax money, energy, and time just because theres no repercussions for their actions. It'll be a miracle if anything ever changes that.

If i call the cops and falsely report that my neighbor commited a crime, i get in trouble. They just go about their business. Not exactly the same scenario but it fits the description.