Well, I have 2 nikon buckmasters BDC 4-12x50 , a vortex crossfire 4-12x50, a leupold vxii 3-9x50.........all are decent mid range scopes, but I swear, my 2 old black box, pre-meade, made in the Phillippines aspherical lens Simmons AETEC 3.8-12X44 AO Model 2104 kicks all of 'ems ASS..........IMO the (old , not master series) AETEC is clearer, better in low light, best eye relief ever, and widest field of view bar none.
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