Whitehouse Classifies Fort Hood Masacre as Workplace Violence?

[Heroes Tactical]

The chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, Connecticut Independent Sen. Joe Lieberman, said the military has become a "direct target of violent Islamist extremism" within the United States.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/06/military-growing-terrorist-target-lawmakers-warn/

Did you know that military members are not allowed to carry a firearm onto the base with them? The highly trained individuals that are entrusted with the responsibility of defending our country are not given the same opportunity to defend themselves while traveling to and from base.

With the very real threat of Islamic Terrorism manifesting itself throughout our country, should military members be allowed to carry a personal firearm in their vehicle while on base?

What do you think?

 

[Sully34]

Military members, active duty and on assignment, should be able to carry their weapons on base with them. You never know what will happen and when an event, as previously mentioned, will occur.

 

[robster31316]

FS Reg 190-2
This regulation provides guidance to the 24th IN Div (Mech) now 3rd ID and Fort Stewart personnel concern-mg tile registration, use, restrictions and transportation of privately owned weapons on the installation.

a. Persons legally authorized to possess firearms, ammunition, knives (with blades longer than three inches), bows and arrows, and crossbows, may carry or transport legally possessed and registered (if required) weapons while holding in his/her possession a weapon registration, and when appropriate, a valid state hunting license, valid Fort Stewart hunting permit, or area access pass under the following conditions.

(1) Weapons may be carried or transported only for purposes of hunting, target shooting, selling the weapon, or having the weapon repaired.

(2) Weapons may not be stored in vehicles overnight and maybe transported in vehicles only for an authorized purpose. Although a weapon maybe kept in a vehicle during duty hours for purposes of an authorized use during lunch or immediately after duty hours, stopping at installation facilities while en route is prohibited, except for essential items such as bread, milk, gas, or emergency auto repair items. Stopping at the Pass and Permit Office for hunting supplies and/or meals is authorized.

b. When carried, weapons will be carried in an open manner (not concealed). Firearms will be unloaded when carried (i.e., projec-tiles physically separated from the firearms, not just removed from the chamber) except when actually engaged in hunting or shoot-ing. Knives will be carried in a sheath or scabbard worn in a clearly visible manner. Commanders may authorize the carrying of a privately owned knife with a blade over three inches to field duty, provided it is car-ried IAW tile Victory Standard and exposed in a sheath/scabbard. The Provost Marshal may authorize the carrying of a privately owned, sheathed, lock blade knife on mili-tary and DOD police officers' pistol belts.

c. When transported in a vehicle, weapons will be in plain view in the passenger area of the vehicle or secured (locked) in the trunk or other rear compartment of the vehicle, not readily accessible from the passenger area (i.e., locked tool box secured to bed of a truck). Unattended vehicles with weapons in plain view will be locked. Firearms will be unloaded and the ammunition physically separated from the firearms. The glove compartment of a vehicle is NOT an author-ized compartment for storing pistols.

d. Firearms, bows and arrows, crossbows, BB and pellet guns will not be loaded, fired or used within the cantonment areas of the installation; within 50 yards of any public highway, street or Fort Stewart numbered road or across building or similar structures; any aircraft landing facility (to include cur-rently used landing or stage fields); any ammunition storage area (except on ap-proved firing range when properly author-ized).

e. Persons not affiliated with DOD or this installation must remain on Georgia State Highways 119 and 144 when carrying or transport-mg weapons through the installa-tion and must be in full compliance with Georgia State Law governing possession, use and transportation of said weapons. Travel off of these state highways or stop-ping, for other than emergency purposes, while on the installation is prohibited.

 

[robster31316]

CHAPTER III - REQUIRE-MENTS FOR POSSESSION AND USE

3-1. POSSESSION.

DOD military and civilian personnel, their family members, USAR/NG personnel and civilians employed on, visiting or traveling through this installation may possess legally defined and privately owned firearms, am-munition, BB and pellet guns, knives, bows and arrows, and crossbows under the fol-lowing conditions:

a. Privately owned firearms, crossbows, BB and pellet guns possessed or stored on the installation must be registered at the installa-tion PMO within three working days after arrival on the installation, or after obtaining the weapon, except:

(1) Firearms legally brought onto the instal-lation for the purpose of hunting or firing at an approved firing range, and only for the period of time the person possessing the fire- arm is hunting or firing on the range.

(2) Firearms carried by federal, state, county or local law enforcement personnel when in the performance of official law enforcement duties.

(3) Firearms carried or transported, in full compliance with Georgia State Laws, on Georgia State Highways 119 and 144 by personnel traveling through the installation only. Travel off of these state highways or stopping, other than for emergency purpos-es, while on the installation is prohibited.

b. Personnel residing in family housing, bachelor officers quarters (DOQ), bachelor enlisted quarters (BEQ)/visiting officers quarters (VOQ) and guest housing, may store legally acquired, authorized ammuni-tion, knives with a blade measuring more than three inches, bows and arrows, regis-tered crossbows, registered BB and pellet guns and registered firearms within their quarters.

c. Personnel residing in troop billets may store legally acquired, authorized ammuni-tion, knives with blades measuring more than three inches, bows and arrows, regis-tered crossbows, registered BB and pellet guns and registered firearms in unit arms rooms. To remove stored items requires the soldier to have written authorization from the unit commander. The unit commander must contact the Office of the Staff Judge Advo-cate before denying a soldier access to the soldier's privately-owned weapon stored in the arms room, The authorization will contain the soldier's name, grade, and unit and identifying data on the weapon, the time period the weapon will be out of the arms room, and the purpose of the removal.

d. Persons using weapons borrowed from another must have the documentation re-quired in para-graph 3-2a, b, or c, as appli-cable, in their possession when carrying, transporting or using the weapon on the in-stallation.

e. Persons under the age of 17 must be ac-companied by a person over the age of 21 who will be responsible for compliance with the requirements of this regulation while hunting or target shooting on the installation and when purchasing legal arms (including knives with blades over three inches) and ammunition from installation retail outlets.

f. Persons must be in compliance with fed-eral and state laws regarding possession (i.e., age, criminal record restrictions, etc,).
g. Storage, accountability and registration procedures will be IAW AR 190-11 and sup-plements.

 

[chucklenut]

you can, i think you just need expressed permission from command

*edit*

the guy above me found the regulation, good job

 

[GDAWG1958]

This whole thing is a big pile of horse ****!

 

[sovietak474u]

wow. That is un real. Dont wanna call it the evil "t" word.

 

[oldmetlfan]

Somebody from California or New York must have written that reg.
Were going to train you to shoot weapons of every kind, but you can't carry one. Freakin stupid.

 

[hunter44a]

I was in shock to find out you couldn't. Of course you should, no more sittin ducks.

 

[Harold]

Things have changed since I was in the service. In 66 I kept a 30-06 in my locker in the barraks at San Angelo Texas with no problem.