The venerable 10 brings a lot to the table and most load data is published under legal support by high paid lawyers, and thus leaves a lot of meat on the bone. This only seems to apply however to more rare or big power cartridges. I guess the 500 billion rounds of 9mm that has been loaded in the last half-century have given a pretty fair appreciation of what it should and should not do. There are still some "brave souls" that drive the 9x19 to some outrageous levels(think 357S +p) and do it on a regular basis. I have seen reports of the big10 driving 180's to 1500+, though I would not want to be the nut behind the butt, so to speak. Lol