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If your 4 wheeler is close enough to your stand that him pulling his in there ruined your hunt, your 4 wheeler is too close. It may be why you aint seeing deer. My Elbert county land we never use them unless we are getting deer out.Havnt seen a deer all morning. An asshole from the club decided to park his 4 wheeler 10 feet from mine at daylight..ruined my damn hunt.