.25acp still viable for pocket carry?

[glocker]

This wasn't meant to be a thread about a caliber war or whose d*** is bigger.

Of course, a 32's better than a 25 and a 380s better than a 32 and a 9 mm better than a 380 and a 45 is better than a 9 mm. Blah blah blah.

One of the last homicides I investigated was with a .25acp, single shot to the chest, the suspect/victim ran/staggered down the steps to the next apartment and died in front of the door. From the time he was shot to the time he lost consciousness. Maybe thirty seconds and then maybe thirty seconds after that he was dead.

But that's just one case and each case is different. Then again I've investigated a shooting where the victim was shot three times with a .40 and sat on the curb and waited for the ambulance and talked to me the whole time.

So going back to my original question, if you have a .25 do you carry it in any fashion for any reason?

Thx.

This wasn't meant to be a thread about a caliber war or whose d*** is bigger.

Of course, a 32's better than a 25 and a 380s better than a 32 and a 9 mm better than a 380 and a 45 is better than a 9 mm. Blah blah blah.

One of the last homicides I investigated was with a .25acp, single shot to the chest, the suspect/victim ran/staggered down the steps to the next apartment and died in front of the door. From the time he was shot to the time he lost consciousness. Maybe thirty seconds and then maybe thirty seconds after that he was dead.

But that's just one case and each case is different. Then again I've investigated a shooting where the victim was shot three times with a .40 and sat on the curb and waited for the ambulance and talked to me the whole time.

So going back to my original question, if you have a .25 do you carry it in any fashion for any reason?

Thx.

Well back when I was working vice , I would tape a baby browning in between my cheeks, so that if I was frisked while conducting a buy , they wouldn’t find anything. It worked great in the winter time. One summer night I was doing a hand to hand transaction for 10 nickel pieces of crack . I was pretty sweaty , wearing some ultra tight jeans . The sweat loosed the grip the tape had. The tiny 25 slide from between my cheeks down my leg, as I was making a buy from a “ 7-foe ganstah disciple” he saw my discomfort and asked me “ wutz up mfer- U AINT NO COP IZ U” I said no, he said “ wut wuz dat?” He whipped a butter fly knife and opened and held it to my face. I said “ hey meng imma jun-KEE CUT ME SOME SLACK- I just chit myself…. Luckily for me he believed me…. 🦍💨

 

[jerry shrewsbury]

Well back when I was working vice , I would tape a baby browning in between my cheeks, so that if I was frisked while conducting a buy , they wouldn’t find anything. It worked great in the winter time. One summer night I was doing a hand to hand transaction for 10 nickel pieces of crack . I was pretty sweaty , wearing some ultra tight jeans . The sweat loosed the grip the tape had. The tiny 25 slide from between my cheeks down my leg, as I was making a buy from a “ 7-foe ganstah disciple” he saw my discomfort and asked me “ wutz up mfer- U AINT NO COP IZ U” I said no, he said “ wut wuz dat?” He whipped a butter fly knife and opened and held it to my face. I said “ hey meng imma jun-KEE CUT ME SOME SLACK- I just chit myself…. Luckily for me he believed me…. 🦍💨

A baby browning is too nice of a gun for ****ty duty. A raven on the other hand...

 

[glocker]

A baby browning is too nice of a gun for ****ty duty. A raven on the other hand...

Hey man,when you are a hammer? Everything looks like a nail 🦍💨

 

[GAgunLAWbooklet]

Glocker, or please tell me that you still have the Baby Browning you used during your undercover work...
... because otherwise I'm going to have second thoughts about handling any used gun of that type I ever see again at a pawn shop or gun show!

Because I'll always wonder in the back of my mind "is this the one that he wedged in his sweaty azz crack?"

 

[glocker]

Glocker, or please tell me that you still have the Baby Browning you used during your undercover work...
... because otherwise I'm going to have second thoughts about handling any used gun of that type I ever see again at a pawn shop or gun show!

Because I'll always wonder in the back of my mind "is this the one that he wedged in his sweaty azz crack?"

You need to worry about those Naa minis 👀 - ya know they can fit in some dark- DARK PLACES 😰

 

[Jambo]

In my experience, no one has wanted to be shot with anything, from .22 lr to 20 ga.

While I agree, there is an ever expanding group of people who have been shot and lived through it, or know someone who has. The threat of being shot no longer has the deterring effect it used to have with some people.

All one has to do is peruse some police body cam videos to see this. Plenty of people screaming "Go ahead! Shoot me!"

I think this behavior is also partially driven by excessive police encounters; if you interact with police a lot, and have guns drawn on you a lot (both by police and others) you may downplay the risk of being shot. Especially if you've actually been shot and lived through it.

I think this is why the threat of prison doesn't work as well anymore; there's a growing group of people that are surrounded by family and friends who have been to prison. Prison becomes just something everyone does.

 

[Gixxer]

While I agree, there is an ever expanding group of people who have been shot and lived through it, or know someone who has. The threat of being shot no longer has the deterring effect it used to have with some people.

All one has to do is peruse some police body cam videos to see this. Plenty of people screaming "Go ahead! Shoot me!"

I think this behavior is also partially driven by excessive police encounters; if you interact with police a lot, and have guns drawn on you a lot (both by police and others) you may downplay the risk of being shot. Especially if you've actually been shot and lived through it.

I think this is why the threat of prison doesn't work as well anymore; there's a growing group of people that are surrounded by family and friends who have been to prison. Prison becomes just something everyone does.

All these things are fairly accurate. However in situations where a person is not afraid of being shot, one of two things take place once they have been fired upon.

They either immediately get hit with reality and change their tune once they realize they've been shot and are no longer the big tough guy they were trying to act like. Or they double down and become more hostile and violent until the effects of the gunshot(s) incapacitate them.

In both scenarios, the caliber used is generally irrelevant. Once shot by anything, the former example only knows they've been shot and the fear and panic set in regarding how bad they may be injured. In the latter, unless the shot placement is dead-on, the individual will be relatively unaffected depending on bullet impact points. This can be seen with videos of suspects shot by 380, 9mm, 40, 45, you name it. But a good shot with a .22 has dropped attackers in their tracks.

This is why proficiency with what you carry is the end-all of the discussion. More firepower can give you slightly better margin for error, but you still have to land your hits close to where they need to be.

 

[buellbrewer]

Well back when I was working vice , I would tape a baby browning in between my cheeks, so that if I was frisked while conducting a buy , they wouldn’t find anything. It worked great in the winter time. One summer night I was doing a hand to hand transaction for 10 nickel pieces of crack . I was pretty sweaty , wearing some ultra tight jeans . The sweat loosed the grip the tape had. The tiny 25 slide from between my cheeks down my leg, as I was making a buy from a “ 7-foe ganstah disciple” he saw my discomfort and asked me “ wutz up mfer- U AINT NO COP IZ U” I said no, he said “ wut wuz dat?” He whipped a butter fly knife and opened and held it to my face. I said “ hey meng imma jun-KEE CUT ME SOME SLACK- I just chit myself…. Luckily for me he believed me…. 🦍💨

i wish i could use the 'wow' and the 'haha' at the same time.

 

[buellbrewer]

Some times I carry a armi galesi in a ankle holster. Ill get a pik of it. I have several of those little colts but I shoot the galesi better. That's in addition to either the 3at in owb or s238 iwb.

 

[aFarewellToKings]

In my experience, no one has wanted to be shot with anything, from .22 lr to 20 ga.

So, you're saying 12 ga is ok?