Those 993's are one of the most desirable of the 911's. Not sure why though. Maybe cause it's the last aircooled ones. They're my favorites too since that's what I grew up wanting. I saw one on ebay asking over 500k lol. Low miles mint condition.
Any Porsche gurus here?
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He's talking about the 993 though. Those are up there in price. Those are the 90's 911's.
For that price range Id get an 07 up 911 turbo to drive. But if I was collecting it I'd go with the 993
Certainly collectible, not sure about 'best handling', back then they still had a deserved reputation for biting the unwary. Still Porsche are possibly the most practical supercars to run.
After getting up to 169 mph on the autobahn in a base Panamera I'm sold on Porsche being amazing. Way out of my price range however.
I know what body it is. Still, no way they are that much unless you trying to find a low mileage car. The base Carrera (2WD) with around 100K miles will only be what I noted.
Just a quick Auto trader search yields one base 911 with 66K miles and a Cabriolet with 118K for just $35K...
The 1989 to 1994 964 models are less desirable than their predecessors, the 1987 to 1989 911 with the 3.2L engine and G50 transmission or their successors, the 1995 -1998 993. On the 964, the bulky impact bumpers, a very heavy and complicated all wheel drive system in the C4 models, and oil leaks until mid year 1993 are all reasons behind this. The 1994 C4 was the only year of the 964 wide body non turbo so it does command a premium over the other non turbo 964 models. The 964 RS America also commands a premium over other 964s. If you purchase a 964, remove the plastic cover from under the engine. Porsche installed it for noise reduction, in the warmer climates it causes additional heat buildup in the engine compartment that an air cooled engine does not need.
The 1987 to 1989 911 is considered to be the last truly "hand built" Porsche and these are very sought after. 1987 was the first year of the G50 transmission with hydraulic clutch.
The 1970s/1980s 911 Turbo 930 values have skyrocketed in the last 3 years. 1989 is the most expensive because of the G50/50 transmission upgrade and it is the last year, with the exception of a mint condition non intercooled first year model.
The 1995 to 1998 993, particularly the 1996-1998 models are very desirable; they are the last of the air cooled Porsches, it is a great looking body style, and the AWD system on the C4 and Turbo is much lighter and much less expensive to maintain than the 964 AWD. 1996 saw an increase of 10 HP over the 1995 model and eliminated the "bucket handle" 3rd brake light.
The 996 model that followed the 993 from 1999 (1998 in Europe) to 2004 is not very desirable in the opinion of many Porsche enthusiasts. IMS (intermediate shaft bearing) failures resulting in very costly repairs, the "fried egg headlight" look shared with the Boxster, the slab sides rather than the classic "Coke bottle" shape of this model have driven down resale values.
The 2005 997 model styling is based on the more popular 993 and resale values reflect this. The first two years of the 997 also suffered from the IMS failure although less frequently than the 996.
My personal opinion would be to seek out a 1987-1989 911 or a 1996 - 1998 993. Definitely have a PPI (pre-purchase inspection) performed. Locally I recommend Franz Blam in Tucker. Most of the air cooled models are being serviced at independent shops rather than at the dealer due to cost and as a result particularly the younger service techs at the dealerships are not as familiar with the aircooled models.
The 1987 to 1989 911 is considered to be the last truly "hand built" Porsche and these are very sought after. 1987 was the first year of the G50 transmission with hydraulic clutch.
The 1970s/1980s 911 Turbo 930 values have skyrocketed in the last 3 years. 1989 is the most expensive because of the G50/50 transmission upgrade and it is the last year, with the exception of a mint condition non intercooled first year model.
The 1995 to 1998 993, particularly the 1996-1998 models are very desirable; they are the last of the air cooled Porsches, it is a great looking body style, and the AWD system on the C4 and Turbo is much lighter and much less expensive to maintain than the 964 AWD. 1996 saw an increase of 10 HP over the 1995 model and eliminated the "bucket handle" 3rd brake light.
The 996 model that followed the 993 from 1999 (1998 in Europe) to 2004 is not very desirable in the opinion of many Porsche enthusiasts. IMS (intermediate shaft bearing) failures resulting in very costly repairs, the "fried egg headlight" look shared with the Boxster, the slab sides rather than the classic "Coke bottle" shape of this model have driven down resale values.
The 2005 997 model styling is based on the more popular 993 and resale values reflect this. The first two years of the 997 also suffered from the IMS failure although less frequently than the 996.
My personal opinion would be to seek out a 1987-1989 911 or a 1996 - 1998 993. Definitely have a PPI (pre-purchase inspection) performed. Locally I recommend Franz Blam in Tucker. Most of the air cooled models are being serviced at independent shops rather than at the dealer due to cost and as a result particularly the younger service techs at the dealerships are not as familiar with the aircooled models.
I see this is not a 993 body style, but the 964 . I assume its hefty price tag is due to being under 100K and appearing to be a special run car by Porsche according to the ad. I mean, you can buy a brand new 911 base for $85K, no way I would put that much money in a non -turbo car that is 20+ years old unless its your thing and your a die hard Porsche enthusiast.
Side note: I remember seeing the repair bill on a 993 Turbo that rear ended someone. Just the aluminum front bumper support was over $1,000. I think one of the headlights was $1,300 if I remember correctly. Cool cars, but ridiculously expensive to repair.
I've got a 2015 Panamera Hybrid S. The thing is amazing in the mountains and racetrack. (yes, I have had it on both). If I were to do it again I wouldn't get a hybrid but the GTS trim but that was another $50k
