AR15 Pistol..Legalities of front grip

[Espartis]

Hey all,

Been interested in Ar pistols and have a question....does putting a front grip off the hand guard violate the "pistol" designation in any way, or is this ok? What about the magpul AFG?

 

[unclear.six]

“Handgun” is defined under Federal law to mean, in part, a firearm which has a short stock and is designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand…. Gun Control Act of 1968, 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(29).

Under an implementing regulation of the National Firearms Act (NFA), 27 C.F.R. § 479.11, “pistol” is defined as a weapon originally designed, made, and intended to fire a projectile (bullet) from one or more barrels when held in one hand, and having (a) a chamber(s) as an integral part(s) of, or permanently aligned with, the bore(s); and (b) a short stock designed to be gripped by one hand and at an angle to and extending below the line of the bore(s).

The NFA further defines the term “any other weapon” (AOW) as any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive, a pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell, weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more, less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire. Such term shall not include a pistol or revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition. 26 U.S.C. § 5845(e).


I have always understood that as a no-no. I'm not a lawyer though haha.

 

[atljetmech]

Don't do it. If you do, don't post pics of it on here or be seen at a public range with it.

 

[Espartis]

hey believe me i'm not one to play games with the ATF.....just seems like you're almost break the law the second you put your support hand on the front guard!

 

[unclear.six]

hey believe me i'm not one to play games with the ATF.....just seems like you're almost break the law the second you put your support hand on the front guard!

Only if they see you do it haha. Start working your forearms out

 

[atl3128]

I know that the vertical grip classifies it as an AOW. I have always wondered about the Mag-pul AFG2 grip just never really had the balls to try

 

[drtybykr]

Pay the 5 bucks for a stamp if you want to put a grip on your pistol.

 

[NWSharpshooter]

Pay the 5 bucks for a stamp if you want to put a grip on your pistol.

200 bucks to create an AOW, 5 bucks to transfer.

 

[RamRoddoc]

I looked at this pistol grip on an AR pistol. Best as I can decipher, the way to do it is have a class III armor do the paper work and install it. The cost as I read was $5 for the AOW stamp. If you a non-class III armor did it then it would cost $200 to make it an AOW. Let me know if you do this, I have an AR 9mm pistol I'd like to put a forward pistol grip on.

 

[CCW]

I saw a vendor with a PLR16 & vert grip for sale at his booth at an Eastman show last year and he had no clue it was a no no.