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Collectible S&W Revolvers produced from 1957 to Present

While we wait for Egghead to post some pictures, let me take this opportunity to thank all those who have posted. Good to see the M27-1 collection that LH has again.
Model 58 .41 Magnum

The M58 is a N frame square butt with no options for barrel length, 4” only, nickel or blue finish, walnut PC diamond magna grips, non-shrouded extractor rod, fixed sight, and chambered in .41 magnum. M58 began production in July, 1964 and production ended in 1977 for the M58. Roughly 20,000 M58s were produced during that time frame. There was another .41 magnum produced in 1964, the model 57. M58 differs from the M57 in several ways. The three major differences that separate the M57 from the M58 are, in my opinion, 1) target sights 2) shrouded extractor rod, 3) comes in barrel lengths of 4”, 6” and 8 3/8”.

I am going to try and not bore everyone with a long story about the .41 magnum round, but there does need to some explaining( this a very condensed version. I would encourage anyone interested to explore the information available). The legendary Elmer Keith, who Roy Jinks S&W historian calls, “"the father of big bore handgunning”, along with another legendary big bore developer, Bill Jordan, of Columbus, GA, both helped in the development of the .41 magnum. Mr. Keith was the primary proponent, and lead developer of the .41 magnum. Mr. Keith did not like the .357 round, even though he is credited with creating the round. Mr. Keith felt that for police service the .357 over penetrated, and was difficult to control in rapid firing. Mr. Keith did not feel that the .44 magnum would be a good round for the police department because,well, it is a .44magnum. So, in conjunction with Remington, the .41 magnum was born. When a new cartridge is created, you need a gun that will fire that cartridge. So, S&W developed the M58 and for big bore hand gun hunters, the M57. The .41magnum round, the M57 and the M58 all came out in 1964.

Mr. Keith, Remington and S&W hoped the M58 would replace many of the .357s in police departments throughout the country……………uh well…………. they were wrong, very wrong. The M58 was a total failure in terms of units sold. I believe the major complaint was that the .41magnum was way too close to the .44magnum in terms of recoil. M58s would set in gun store for months, maybe years before they sold. The N frame is a desirable frame so the .41 magnum M58 became a conversion frame for .44s, 45s, even .357s.

The M58 is collectible because it was a failure. Not many survived for various reasons, and those that did, well, there is a hefty price tag on those.

M58

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While we wait for Egghead to post some pictures, let me take this opportunity to thank all those who have posted. Good to see the M27-1 collection that LH has again.
Model 58 .41 Magnum

The M58 is a N frame square butt with no options for barrel length, 4” only, nickel or blue finish, walnut PC diamond magna grips, non-shrouded extractor rod, fixed sight, and chambered in .41 magnum. M58 began production in July, 1964 and production ended in 1977 for the M58. Roughly 20,000 M58s were produced during that time frame. There was another .41 magnum produced in 1964, the model 57. M58 differs from the M57 in several ways. The three major differences that separate the M57 from the M58 are, in my opinion, 1) target sights 2) shrouded extractor rod, 3) comes in barrel lengths of 4”, 6” and 8 3/8”.

I am going to try and not bore everyone with a long story about the .41 magnum round, but there does need to some explaining( this a very condensed version. I would encourage anyone interested to explore the information available). The legendary Elmer Keith, who Roy Jinks S&W historian calls, “"the father of big bore handgunning”, along with another legendary big bore developer, Bill Jordan, of Columbus, GA, both helped in the development of the .41 magnum. Mr. Keith was the primary proponent, and lead developer of the .41 magnum. Mr. Keith did not like the .357 round, even though he is credited with creating the round. Mr. Keith felt that for police service the .357 over penetrated, and was difficult to control in rapid firing. Mr. Keith did not feel that the .44 magnum would be a good round for the police department because,well, it is a .44magnum. So, in conjunction with Remington, the .41 magnum was born. When a new cartridge is created, you need a gun that will fire that cartridge. So, S&W developed the M58 and for big bore hand gun hunters, the M57. The .41magnum round, the M57 and the M58 all came out in 1964.

Mr. Keith, Remington and S&W hoped the M58 would replace many of the .357s in police departments throughout the country……………uh well…………. they were wrong, very wrong. The M58 was a total failure in terms of units sold. I believe the major complaint was that the .41magnum was way too close to the .44magnum in terms of recoil. M58s would set in gun store for months, maybe years before they sold. The N frame is a desirable frame so the .41 magnum M58 became a conversion frame for .44s, 45s, even .357s.

The M58 is collectible because it was a failure. Not many survived for various reasons, and those that did, well, there is a hefty price tag on those.

M58

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JWC JWC you are a literal fountain of knowledge on S&W. Good stuff.
 
JWC JWC you are a literal fountain of knowledge on S&W. Good stuff.

Thank you, but frankly, there are many on this site who have forgotten more than I know about S&W revolvers. I am not an expert at all, never will be, but I do enjoy looking up the background on certain models. A "fountain", hmmmm, that probably fits....especially the spewing out part of a fountain. lol
 
Funny, I've got either a pre-Model 30 or a 30 No Dash and never thought about it being "Collectable"...Same with my Four-inch 25-5--Prolly' ex-DeKalb County PD, I think... :)


I have a pre-Model 30 in good condition, but no actual Model 30.

I carry the pre-Model some, just because it is so handy for pocket carry.

I went to an estate auction for a deceased GSP who had some rank, and they auctioned off his service weapon, and it was a 4" 25-5 in really good condition. I was interested in it, until two factions of the family ran it up to $3000.00, and then it wasn't quite so interesting.
 
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So... Did you see they reissued the model 610 in two different barrel length? I wonder what that will do to the value of my originals?
In my opinion, a reissued M610 will not cause the value of the original M610 to drop. The M58 was reissued in 2009 as one of the classic series. Did nothing to the value of the original M58. Anyway, that is just my opinion.
 
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