Do Glocks have safeties?

[abailey362]

the safety making it safer for others isn't valid. safeties are normally easy to disengage and very obvious on what makes em work.
yes the 1911 has a manual safety, but not by design. it was added to comply with the us requirement that it was there.

most striker fired pistols are safer than revolvers with long 50lb trigger pulls, or guns with frame/slide mounted safeties. once the safety is disengaged they are more likely to AD if dropped or mishandled.

a glock trigger pull has to be fully covering the trigger, catching the side of the trigger won't operate it, dropping it won't, etc.
the xd adds a grip safety that is natural when holding to fire.
smith poly guns also have trigger safeties, however uncomfortable they may be.

 

[DaveTheMinion]

8 digits with keyed backup, when its not on my person, it is there. I guarantee that safety wont slow him down. My son pulls the child proof covers out the outlets, flips light switches, plays peek avoid, manages to get into childproof drawers, a safety wont stop him. When he was 6 months old he had enogj strength trying to pull free from me that I actually had to try to hold him. No trigger wight or holster will slow him down. He knows how to pull chairs, toys or stools to get onto cabinets, no height is safe.

 

[protective measures]

Yes but all it takes is one mistake. If I left a glock where my 2 year old nephew could get to it he could pull the trigger, I am not saying I am irresponsible with my guns but I know I am human. A Safety takes one more level of humanity out of it.

If theres any chance of a child or other unauthorized person gaining access to a firearm the best option is to either have the firearm on your person or to lock it up out of their reach.

If you will research this subject you will consistently find that every prominent Instructor from every Firearms school in the country all have the same opinion on this topic.

 

[kmatt]

When I got my first glock, I was pretty nervous about it not having a manual safety. Now I won't have a carry gun with a manual safety. I even considered at first getting one of the New York triggers to make it feel like a dao.

Keep your guns away from the untrained. Keep you booger digger off the thing that makes it fire.

 

[Powderdry]

If theres any chance of a child or other unauthorized person gaining access to a firearm the best option is to either have the firearm on your person or to lock it up out of their reach.

If you will research this subject you will consistently find that every prominent Instructor from every Firearms school in the country all have the same opinion on this topic.

I understand and my firearm is on me or in a safe BUT I still want to minimize my margin of error. If it doesn't slow me down and it might avert tragedy whats the down side?

 

[DaveTheMinion]

I understand and my firearm is on me or in a safe BUT I still want to minimize my margin of error. If it doesn't slow me down and it might avert tragedy whats the down side?

If they manage to get away from you or get your safe open, is a safety going to stop them?

 

[Powderdry]

If they manage to get away from you or get your safe open, is a safety going to stop them?

No My whole argument is that as a human being I may screw up and forget. If and or when I mess up I want one more thing that MIGHT avert a disaster.

 

[BBGuns]

No My whole argument is that as a human being I may screw up and forget. If and or when I mess up I want one more thing that MIGHT avert a disaster.

there are just 4 simple rules you have to follow and ALWAYS Clear a Firearm when you pick it up and you will never have a ND/AD...

 

[Powderdry]

there are just 4 simple rules you have to follow and ALWAYS Clear a Firearm when you pick it up and you will never have a ND/AD...

Again I undersstand the rules of gun safety and ALWAYS follow them. As I have since before I can remember.

 

[protective measures]

What is taught by all of the top experts in the field is that under the stress of a violent confrontation your "lizard brain" takes over and your survival instincts kick in causing your mind to be unable to form complex thoughts or your body to perform complex manipulations.

There are numerous videos that I've seen including the one from Frontsight where people experiencing the mindnumbing stress of a lethal attack forget about the safety & press the trigger repeatedly over & over "trying to make it go bang".

I'm actually working on an article on this very subject for a gun magazine relating a theory I have on this phenomenon that is well known in training circles.
There are cases where people have actually broken or bent their triggers due to the adrenaline driven strength used in some of these instances.

My theory (to be elaborated in the article) is that when ones survival instincts are brought into play in a life or death situation the lizard or primitive part of your brain is only able to focus on the most basic elements of doing what you have to do to live.
As that pertains to the gun that means making it fire... RIGHT NOW, which means pressing the trigger, not the safety.
Subconciously we connotate the safety with stopping the gun from firing which is the last thing we're concerned about doing at the moment.

The safety makes the gun STOP firing or prevents it from firing... the opposite of what you want it to do in a life or death struggle.

Certainly the possibility exists of training to a level where the use of that safety becomes more instinctive, but based on several Instructors from other schools that I've corresponded with that is a level of training way behind what most people will ever achieve.

That in a nutshell is why the guns with "passive" safeties have taken over the market in the last three decades.

Under stress the focus needs to be out there "doing the job" of dealing with the threat instead of focusing on figuring out how to "make the tool work".