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EV's are NOT America's future!

Nuke And Juke said:
I always love this flawed argument. It never fails to come up in a discussion. SUBSIDIES...

I would answer that if you know what the TESLA subsidie income was last year. And I would ask you to compare that to the subsidies paid for OIL around the world and the US


Maybe that's fake news. Let's go directly to the IEA

www.iea.org

Fossil Fuel Subsidies – Topics - IEA

Explore analysis, reports, news and events about Fossil Fuel Subsidies
www.iea.org www.iea.org


Let's do away with ALL subsidies...im all for it. That doesnt count all the lives sacrificed to fight wars to protect your $3 a gallon...

By then...Teslas will be the cheapest option
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The subsidies for oil go way deeper than anything imaginable. Not just money, we've sacrificed our young men's lives and limbs for decades, trillions in debt to prop up that petro dollar.

I definitely don't agree with any subsidies for any industry, but glad someone else around here sees the absolute insanity of someone who thinks EV's are more subsidized than oil.
 
Fatal_Bert said:
The subsidies for oil go way deeper than anything imaginable. Not just money, we've sacrificed our young men's lives and limbs for decades, trillions in debt to prop up that petro dollar.

I definitely don't agree with any subsidies for any industry, but glad someone else around here sees the absolute insanity of someone who thinks EV's are more subsidized than oil.
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Nuke And Juke said:
I always love this flawed argument. It never fails to come up in a discussion. SUBSIDIES...

I would answer that if you know what the TESLA subsidie income was last year. And I would ask you to compare that to the subsidies paid for OIL around the world and the US


Maybe that's fake news. Let's go directly to the IEA

www.iea.org

Fossil Fuel Subsidies – Topics - IEA

Explore analysis, reports, news and events about Fossil Fuel Subsidies
www.iea.org www.iea.org


Let's do away with ALL subsidies...im all for it. That doesnt count all the lives sacrificed to fight wars to protect your $3 a gallon...

By then...Teslas will be the cheapest option
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There are many forms of subsidies, many are indirect such as tax breaks for purchasing goods that can't stand on their own in the marketplace.
 
NewLeaf said:
Texas Policy Report
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NewLeaf NewLeaf ...Read your own article and dont click bait...

E J Antoni is a fraud. If you just followed the reference in his writing...you get to this:


New data obtained by CR from ALG, a data and analytics subsidiary of automotive pricing and
information website TrueCar, shows that when adjusted for federal purchase incentives, both
battery electric vehicles (BEVs) and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs) are expected to
depreciate at the same rate as ICE vehicles in the same class over the first five years of
ownership. In addition, new data extracted from recent Consumer Reports reliability surveys
shows that both BEV and PHEV drivers are saving 50 percent on their repair and maintenance
costs, when averaged over a typical vehicle lifetime.

Based on average driving habits, fuel costs for BEVs were estimated assuming mostly home
charging and an estimated six fast-charging sessions required per year for BEVs with a range of
250 miles. Overall, BEVs were estimated to save consumers about 60 percent on fuel costs
compared with the average vehicle in their class. Fuel costs were also analyzed by state, with
the majority of states falling within 10 percent of the national average.

The nine most popular EVs on the market under $50,000 were compared to (1) the best-selling,
(2) the top-rated, and (3) the most efficient vehicles in their class. For six of the nine EVs
analyzed, the first-owner ownership costs are estimated to be lower than those of all three
comparable ICE vehicles in their class. For all nine EVs analyzed, the first-owner ownership
costs are estimated to be lower for at least one of the three comparable ICE vehicles. In many
cases, the EVs matched or exceeded the performance of some of the top-performing ICE
vehicles in their class. For all EVs analyzed, the lifetime ownership costs were many thousands
of dollars lower than all comparable ICE vehicles’ costs, with most EVs offering savings of
between $6,000 and $10,000. While new EVs were found to offer significant cost savings over
comparable ICE vehicles, the cost savings of 5- to 7-year-old used EVs was found to be two or
three times larger on a percentage savings basis.

Overall, these results show that the latest generation of mainstream EVs typically cost less to
own than similar gas-powered vehicles, a new development in the automotive marketplace with
serious potential consumer benefits.
 
Nuke And Juke said:
I always love this flawed argument. It never fails to come up in a discussion. SUBSIDIES...

I would answer that if you know what the TESLA subsidie income was last year. And I would ask you to compare that to the subsidies paid for OIL around the world and the US


Maybe that's fake news. Let's go directly to the IEA

www.iea.org

Fossil Fuel Subsidies – Topics - IEA

Explore analysis, reports, news and events about Fossil Fuel Subsidies
www.iea.org www.iea.org


Let's do away with ALL subsidies...im all for it. That doesnt count all the lives sacrificed to fight wars to protect your $3 a gallon...

By then...Teslas will be the cheapest option
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interesting.....YOUR $3.00 a gallon....I suppose you were walking at the time....simply an observation
 
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