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Father shoots 17 year old daughters BF in her bed. She told dad she didn't know him.

But you obviously believe that the law the way it is now written is wrong. The logical extension of that is that if you found yourself in that situation, you believe you should be prosecuted. Or do you think this new legal standard should only apply to other people?

this is seriously the worst analogy I may have ever seen. Do you agree with speed limits? Are you going to call the cops and ask for a ticket every time you exceed them? What about whenever you do a slow roll through a stop sign at a completely empty intersection? Or what if you forget to wear your seat belt for a quick trip down the street?

Do you just think those laws should apply to others and not yourself? If not, why aren't you volunteering to be punished for them?

This is the most backward and retarded logic ever.
 
this is seriously the worst analogy I may have ever seen. Do you agree with speed limits? Are you going to call the cops and ask for a ticket every time you exceed them? What about whenever you do a slow roll through a stop sign at a completely empty intersection? Or what if you forget to wear your seat belt for a quick trip down the street?

Do you just think those laws should apply to others and not yourself? If not, why aren't you volunteering to be punished for them?

This is the most backward and retarded logic ever.

When you consider the legitimacy of a law, the best way is to put yourself in the "criminal's" shoes. Let me rephrase the question. If you used deadly force with the belief that it was needed and appropriate according to the current laws, do you feel that being prosecuted for your actions would be justified?

I have only argued against one ticket in my life and it was almost immediately dismissed, because it was not a legal ticket according to the current traffic laws. Every other ticket I have paid without complaint because I knew I had been breaking the law and the ticket was justified.

It's easy to condemn someone with clear 20/20 hindsight. Now put yourself in the man's shoes in your mind. Do you have a daughter? Would you not kill a strange man in her room at 2:20am if she claimed she did not know him and he increased the perceived danger to your daughter by not following your orders? IMO, any reasoning person that actually had a pair would.
 
see, even by his account it sounds unjustified, from what I read, he came win the room, asked his daughter who's this. she tried to act like she didn't know, HE LEFT THE ROOM to get his gun. Doesn't sound like fear of imminent danger, sounds like pissed off.
OR he could have been in fear of the younger better shape full grown man that was illegitimatly in his home, expressing unknown danger to him and his family?Ain't always about this instance, often it is but I doubt so in this case.
 
He didn't move towards the shooter or the daughter is my guess. If he really moved at all, he was probably trying to cover his johnson. Was a weapon presented? Was a weapon present in the bedroom, other than the father's? I'm glad you're all Billy Bad Azzes and all that, your family can rest safely in the knowledge that you'll shoot first and ask questions later.You know what the man did. He killed a boy who was seeing his daughter. She admitted she knew him after she found out daddy was a full blown retard.
Pocket gun concealed in his pants on the floor?
 
I posted this in another thread yesterday about self defense. That's what they said on Fox, they were debating how castle doctrine could be interpreted here:http://video.foxnews.com/v/33527712...urder-charges/?intcmp=obnetwork#sp=show-clipsGo to 1 minute mark.Bascially, the legal experts said he'll get off because of Castle.
As he should, IMO I think anyone in your home without authorization should "wake up dead" I understand why that cannot be so, but in a perfect world...
 
Can't believe there's twenty pages on this. Anyone doing what the deceased did should be shot, and deservedly so. The man was just doing his job as a parent and man of his house. If you make more of it, you put your children and your home in jeopardy. Of course if you like strangers in your house, teenage pregnancy, welfare mothers, degradation of society....have at it!
 
I don't know ALL of the details, and I doubt anyone does, but if it is as reported daughter says doesnt know the person and he "reaches" for something I find it hard to believe the dad may be prosecuted.

Terrible terrible circumstance though for all parties involved.

Based on my limited knowledge the daughter is a grade A dumbass and will now have to live knowing she could have "saved" her boyfriend and her father from a lifetime of grief/death....
 
A stranger is in his daughter's bed. His daughter is frightened. He tells the stranger "Don't Move!" The stranger reaches for something, his daughter screams and ducks and moves away from the stranger. Instead of holding at gunpoint, finger off the trigger and demanding hands and conversation...the girls's dad fired. Big mess!
 
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