FLOCK cameras, have you seen them????

[Ballvina]

 

[Torn]

Those cameras are why they made paint ball guns.

 

[rbstern]

You're way behind on your ****.

Every cell phone that can communicate via the cellular network has an IMEI code that gets logged as your phone is handed off to a new repeater. Most phones, you can find your IMEI number by going into your phone app and typing:

* # 06 #

Add that - of course - the cell phone company knows what phone numbers you called, which were answered, the call duration and a lot of other metadata.

That data can be stored for as long as your cell phone company wants. Or for as long as the government that runs the telecommunications licensing authority wants them to. In the case of AT&T, in 2018, AT&T reported in Carpenter vs United States that they stored data for up to two years (PDF).

Note that this was their public stance back then. There's no actual limit on how long that data might be maintained, OR who they make that data available to. If they have a portal for third party enquiries, that enquirer could easily pull data regularly and construct a complete historical record. So the phone companies themselves don't need to maintain a complete historical record. They just need to make their short-term historical data available to an entity with a lot of disk storage who happens to be interested in where you, a law-abiding citizen, go every day.

Now let's think about who might be interested in where you go on every January 6th .....

At least that data requires a warrant or subpoena for the government to access.

The FLOCK data is warrantlessly accessible. No due process.

 

[BHPSteel]

At least that data requires a warrant or subpoena for the government to access.

The FLOCK data is warrantlessly accessible. No due process.

Point taken, but personally, I don't have much confidence that data that would officially need a warrant or subpoena won't get out in the wild anyway. Its very existence is a constant and powerful temptation for the panopticon state.

With enough intermediaries involved, our judicial system would tut-tut and then allow that evidence to stand when some alphabet agency decides it's time for you to BOHICA.

 

[SafeCracka]

They are everywhere in south Ga. A gated community nearby has their personal Flock at the entrance. Who paid for that ?

My neighborhood has them too…the “HOA” does….it keeps folks like lftd&pwrstrok'n out 😂

 

[Talos]

is there a tab in Waze to mark these flock cameras?

Scratch that. There is not a tab to report cameras. You can report a map issue and describe that a camera needs to be added to a certain location by the map editors.

 

[lftd&pwrstrok'n]

My neighborhood has them too…the “HOA” does….it keeps folks like lftd&pwrstrok'n out 😂

I thought changing the gate code on a regular basis was enough to keep me out?

 

[olerambler]

China prob has more data on US citizens that the Feds do at this point.

Yes good guess with all spies already in our country. Plus Biden allowing spy ballon’s drones what every else all for 💰

 

[Jambo]

The truth is that the police cannot operate cameras like this; something about that pesky Bill of Rights. So they collect our tax money and pay a private company to do it for them.

But don't worry, Flock won't keep your data for more than 30 days; they're a data company, you can trust them. Of course, they admit that anyone can download the data and keep it "per department procedures".

So who has access? Well, here's the city of Thomasville's info:

Thomasville flock

At least they tell us who all can access the data. Upon this writing, 144,500 license plates read in the past 30 days, 24,000 " hits"., or 16% of the scans I don't recall that many arrests in Thomasville, so many must have been in error.

Imagine you or I reported 20,000 false police reports in a month. I wonder how many cops could have been on the street, but we're in an office verifying flock hits.

Of course, they are a private company, and can change their rules at any time, and start selling data to anyone they want after we've financed their web of cameras.

 

[GAgunLAWbooklet]

Braselton police chief arrested hours after announcing retirement

Former Braselton Police Chief Michael Steffman was arrested on stalking and misconduct charges after a months-long GBI investigation.

www.fox5atlanta.com

Some cops just can't resist using this kind of technology to spy on people for illegitimate reasons. Illegal surveillance and stalking through the use of traffic monitoring cameras.