Good read, agree with all that was written. Those budget AR's probably fit the bill for a lot of owners because they are not putting thousands of rounds through them, they sit in the gun safe and are brought out to show off to their buddies over a beer
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Hello, I'm mtdawg169 and I'm a parts snob.
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Didn't mean to cut my response so short earlier. Spikes existed, as a retail shop in Florida. Tom Miller was Badazzar15 on arfcom for years before anyone ever heard of Spikes Tactical. He would post up pictures of his builds as if he were just a satisfied customer. They didn't really hit the mainstream until later, when they started buying barrels in bulk from Daniel Defense. They are also the reason DD doesn't supply barrels as an oem any longer.
BCM started making uppers before they were a blip on the radar. But BCM was not active on arfcom for years, so they remained relatively unknown to the larger market. They initially focused on m4carbine.net and LE sales.
Today, companies like Sionics and SOLGW are following the same model.
He's still on pistol forum.
The #1 reason that people don't like Anderson, is all the guys claiming the "just as good as" argument. It's just not true. Many, many people have built up guns on their lowers without issue. But the number of people who have had issues is higher than other manufacturers. Their QC sucks, in general. And in my experience, their lower parts kits are sub par. Barrels and bolt carrier groups are essentially dpms quality or lower.mtdawg169 , honest question.
can you tell me why people dislike Anderson Arms AR's so much?
I happen to like them and have checked the forge marking on the upper and lower of one that I have and, they seem to or at least appear to be made by quality companies. I do understand that after the forging process they are shipped to the different manufacturers for their roll markings and specific finishing.
My Anderson Upper (Square Forge Marking) Which appears to be used by Delton, BCM, and Colt
My Anderson Lower (Keyhole Forge Marking) Which appears to be used by Knights Armament, and Colt
Is this not correct?
The one I am referring to is my RF85 Treated Anderson Arms AR that I purchased from them and did not have assembled by "dude the AR Builder". Thank you for your awesome knowledge.
But, because Anderson is an OEM for other companies, people want to associate the same quality with Anderson. When in fact, the Anderson branded parts are the definition of hit and miss quality.
As far as forge marks go, they mean absolutely nothing regarding the finished quality and tolerances of of a receiver.
#sorrynotsorry
I wish that were true....I cry almost every time I buy!
Hmmm. Interesting. I must have got a good one then. Anyway, are the tolerances not done by the forging process? If I have and upper, as an example, that was forged by the same company as say, a Colt upper, does that not make that upper forged with the same tolerances. I understand that the finish may not be the same but the quality of the forging should be, correct? Some don't really care that much how refined or finished an AR looks as long is it functions properly.
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The critical dimensions are machined after the raw forging is made. And there are a ton of companies finish machine forgings.
This is a forging:
