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Here's a good question regarding legality of handgun purchasing across state lines
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It does not matter who pays for the gun, it matters who the transferee is and their intent.
Ok. Is there a problem here. I grew up in Florida and still have a buddy there. We are leaving each other our guns. We hunt together a week every year. I live in Ga. We both have pistols, rifles and shotguns.
Is the person who fills out the 4473 the intended owner of the pistol?
No,
Well I guess you can buy some bullets, but your not leaving with a gun.
CC transactions don't matter: it's the one what fills out the paperwork.
If the guy you intend to fill out paperwork on isn't for you at time of paperwork filling out;
FELONY
Agree with observation. My brother doesn't have a GB account. He found a gun he wanted. I paid for it and had it shipped to a local FFL. My brother completed the paperwork and picked it up. His gun.
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The 4473 is the only thing that matters. Lie on it go to jail....
I am with the guys who question who actually ends up retaining possession of the gun. Let's put it this way: Let's say a good and dear friend from out-of-state knows you want a certain gun. He calls your local gun store, pays for the gun, and then tells you to go pick up your present. If the person receiving the gift fills out the 4473 and takes possession of the gun, and retains possession of the gun...no crime is commited IMO. However, if the person in GA signs the 4473, walks out with the gun, ships it to the guy in FL...TWO felonies right there, straw purchase and interstate shipment w/o FFL. If he holds on to it until the guy comes and gets it, only one felony - straw purchase.
The acutal line says "transferee/buyer" on 4473. I don't think it's illegal to take transfer of the gun as long as it remains here in GA. As soon as the dude in FL takes possession...problem.
But I am NOT a lawyer...and law doesn't always follow common logic.
The acutal line says "transferee/buyer" on 4473. I don't think it's illegal to take transfer of the gun as long as it remains here in GA. As soon as the dude in FL takes possession...problem.
But I am NOT a lawyer...and law doesn't always follow common logic.
No you can't legally for "his" gun.
The real issue we all should have is a non-elected "agency" of executive branch of the government gets to "make law" by simply updating a form.
This should never be tolerated and is the apitimy of government bureaucracy that criminalizes its citizens for doing nothing illegal as originally intended by the legislative branch.
In 1995, the ATF rewrote the 4473 form to make it a crime to buy the gun for someone else, even if that other person was not a prohibited person.
Later the form was revised to permit gifts.
Never expect one federal government agency to restrict another federal government agency. It's for public safety!
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...ions-of-the-abramski-4473-supreme-court-case/
The real issue we all should have is a non-elected "agency" of executive branch of the government gets to "make law" by simply updating a form.
This should never be tolerated and is the apitimy of government bureaucracy that criminalizes its citizens for doing nothing illegal as originally intended by the legislative branch.
In 1995, the ATF rewrote the 4473 form to make it a crime to buy the gun for someone else, even if that other person was not a prohibited person.
Later the form was revised to permit gifts.
Never expect one federal government agency to restrict another federal government agency. It's for public safety!
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...ions-of-the-abramski-4473-supreme-court-case/
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Well, what I want to know is how was this explained to the gun shop? Surely the gun shop had to know that Joe Blow was buying the gun and Suzy Q was picking it up.
