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MKA 1919 Shotgun

Updates:

No pics yet. As I nearly destroyed my gun trying to shoehorn my quad rail forend on, I stopped before I got the big hammer and called Matt at Tooth and Nail.

Long story short - ooops, they sent me the wrong one, which leads me to another point I'll discuss in second. Basically, there's a difference between the MKA-1919 and the MKA-1919XN. Waiting on Matt to send me a new forend that will fit. Right now, my gun is naked, and there's a freeze warning in effect tonight. Bad timing... ;)

On to my second point:

Akdal 1919 versus XN 1919:

These are two different guns if you're trying to modify them. Not all of the parts made for the original Akdal will fit the XN (Eksen) model.

Where this really comes into play is with the forend and the buttstock.

First, the front of the receiver is shaped ever-so-slightly different on the XN compared to the Akdal. This makes some Akdal forends (the majority of parts floating around) not play nicely with the XN.

Second, the back of the receiver has a slightly different angle, which makes cutting lengths a little different between the two. It also depends on which buttstock adapter you have chosen. Apparently I have more money than sense, so I bought a Firebird adapter, a Tooth and Nail adapter, and a Salem-6 adapter.

The Firebird and T&N adapters both look good on my receiver, but the Salem 6 is all jacked up and off center. It could just be me and my ****ty bandsaw skills.


Regarding pistol grips:
If I had it to do all over again, I would not have cut the pistol grip off. This caused a couple of problems for me. Also, as I held my shotgun with the new Magpul grip, then picked up the XN stub that I had just cut off, I realized just how ergonomic it is (for my hand). The Magpul grip is tacticool, but the original XN pistol grip feels better. Now the only thing it's good for is chunking in the trash.

Headache #1 - The new grip doesn't feel as good in my hand as the factory injection molded one from XN
Headache #2 - I have yet to see a modified pistol grip for the 1919 that looked like it belonged on the gun. There's always some spaces visible, which to me are unsightly.
Headache #3 - If you install a new T&N trigger system (which I recommend, both for 922r compliance and for overall function and feel), the adapter pushes the back of the sear block up too high, and you have to Dremel off some of the block so you can get your fire selector switch back through the holes. Don't worry, I have some pictures of my ****ty Dremel work. The gun safety checks just fine afterward, so I'm not *too* worried. I have yet to fire a shell with the new system though...


So when Matt gets my new forend to me, I will install it (hopefully without the assistance of a hammer and gear pullers) and take some purty pictures.
 
The Firebird Precision charging handle is the best, IMO. Nobody has them in stock (when I was ordering), but if you call Nanci at Firebird, she'll ship you one. Don't know why they don't update their website, but they don't.

The Tromix one is too rough on my delicate hands. I didn't buy a T&N handle because I'd already spent a bunch of money on other crap.


And yes pics!

Also interested in seeing the TN charging handle. I'm going to wait for the Salem6 hand guard because its a 2 peice. Once I figure what brake i'm gonna get I'm gonna have the barrel cut and permately attach the brake to get around 18.5" total.

I just installed the TN trigger a few weeks ago but haven't shot it yet. Feels good and solid.
 
great details...i just ordered the T&N level10 with side charging handle and the adapter plate for the stock...how do you know the difference between xn model? my serial starts with x1204....does that mean it is not an xn model?
 
Look on the right side of your receiver (the one with the charging handle). If you have an XN, it will say MKA-1919-XN.

Also, if you got this on a form 4473 in new condition, the box will say "XN" all over it.


great details...i just ordered the T&N level10 with side charging handle and the adapter plate for the stock...how do you know the difference between xn model? my serial starts with x1204....does that mean it is not an xn model?
 
Here is what an XN receiver looks like:



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great details...i just ordered the T&N level10 with side charging handle and the adapter plate for the stock...how do you know the difference between xn model? my serial starts with x1204....does that mean it is not an xn model?
 
Like I mentioned above, if you have installed a pistol grip adapter, the T&N sear will block the fire selector from going back into the lower.
My solution? Dremel out a little semi-circle in the block so that the selector pin fits. Feel free to trash my craftsmanship. I am not a professional.

XN sear Dremel work.jpg
 
Look on the right side of your receiver (the one with the charging handle). If you have an XN, it will say MKA-1919-XN.

Also, if you got this on a form 4473 in new condition, the box will say "XN" all over it.

ah i see...mine does not say xn...thanks for the clarification...will send you pics of mine when done..look forward to seeing yours.
 
You'll have an easier time finding parts that fit yours since it's not an XN. Just make sure you don't order anything that has "XN" anywhere in the parts or serial number. All the standard 1919 stuff should work fine with yours.

Did you get yours from Centerfire? I just picked mine up at the LGS here in Gainesville.

ah i see...mine does not say xn...thanks for the clarification...will send you pics of mine when done..look forward to seeing yours.
 
You'll have an easier time finding parts that fit yours since it's not an XN. Just make sure you don't order anything that has "XN" anywhere in the parts or serial number. All the standard 1919 stuff should work fine with yours.

Did you get yours from Centerfire? I just picked mine up at the LGS here in Gainesville.

i actually got it from cheaperthandirt last year before all the craziness...i have been on the fence to modify and keep it or sell it for something else...decided to dress it up..going with flat dark earth hand guard and stock...2 tone effect
 
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