So what’s the deal with pre lock?

[SirBannedAlot]

I smell sophism.

Not at all... a lot of time, people just don’t like something... but simply saying that they don’t like it because they don’t like it, doesn’t seem to be enough. And so they feel like they have to construct some sort of scenario that justifies how they feel.

If someone just says that they don’t like it because Hillary, I would say ok.

When they start making up claims of failure and such, when the facts don’t bear that out... I tend to want to call them on it... when they back peddle and claim, well, it COULD happen, and even though it really hasn’t, but it could... it seems like they are just trying to make excus s for that they believe, rather than just sack up and say I simply don’t like it and that’s all the reason I need. You would get no argument from me at that point.

 

[Baldilox]

No arguments on aesthetics and whether collectors want them... simply wondered if the reputation for failure was warranted, and it seems clear it isn’t.

It is clear to YOU that it isn't, that we all got.

 

[timbgtm]

Quite a few firearms fall into the category (I don't like it) because so and so says it's a pos!

 

[jaybees]

What kind of statistics do you need to be satisfied there is a problem, albeit a small one? What % of failures would have you change your opinion? I think it’s important to establish that 1st cause if you think it takes a 50% failure rate, you might as welll lock this thread.

 

[SirBannedAlot]

It is clear to YOU that it isn't, that we all got.

Show me the money! Let’s see the failure rates of their revolvers pre lock, vs after. Don’t just tell me I am wrong, show me.

 

[SirBannedAlot]

What kind of statistics do you need to be satisfied there is a problem, albeit a small one? What % of failures would have you change your opinion?

1 out of 10,000 would start to concern me. 1 out of 1,000 would really make me concerned...

 

[jaybees]

Alright guys! He’s given y’all a base line. Some of you statisticians get to work!

 

[Cadcom]

 

[fast306stang]

Not at all... a lot of time, people just don’t like something... but simply saying that they don’t like it because they don’t like it, doesn’t seem to be enough. And so they feel like they have to construct some sort of scenario that justifies how they feel.

If someone just says that they don’t like it because Hillary, I would say ok.

When they start making up claims of failure and such, when the facts don’t bear that out... I tend to want to call them on it... when they back peddle and claim, well, it COULD happen, and even though it really hasn’t, but it could... it seems like they are just trying to make excus s for that they believe, rather than just sack up and say I simply don’t like it and that’s all the reason I need. You would get no argument from me at that point.

I ain't backpeddle a damn thing.

 

[GFB]

Alright guys! He’s given y’all a base line. Some of you statisticians get to work!

If anyone works in the S&W legal department and hasn't signed a NDA, please stop what you're doing and provide the OP some statistics.

I own several S&W revolvers. None of them have internal locks. My preference is toward less recent production in general. I have never told anyone to avoid the internal locks. If someone likes newer models with internal locks, by all means, go for it. This thread has been all about finding people who don't trust internal locks so the OP could argue with them. The first post should have been written in a more honest manner.