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Status of Bump Stocks

Missouri declared itself a sanctuary state for federal gun law violators.

Apparently the state legislature in Missouri voted to forbid all state & local cops in MO from enforcing FEDERAL gun control laws.
if something is not a crime under Missouri's own state law then Missouri's cops will not arrest for it or try to prosecute it and that would include every level of government within Missouri --state, county, and city .

http://thesentinel.net/politics/missouri-bans-all-federal-gun-control-laws-in-23-10-vote/


That’s great!
And thanks for sharing!
I’m a Missouri Resident and didn’t know any of that.
 
So in an effort to be consistent... how is this any different from California refusing to enforce Federal immigration laws?

While I like to see us stick it to the other side once in awhile with their own medicine, in reality we are doing exactly what we ***** at them for doing... we sink to their level...

Because there is no Constitutional right to be an illegal alien, whereas there is this little thing called 2A... Absolutely no comparison there.

Agreed, AND, I'm 100% confident that if Congress,

in 1934 or 1968 when the NFA was enacted and then broadened,

had been informed about a future invention called a "bump fire" or "slide fire" stock, they surely would have written the technical definition of "machine gun" to include such things. The "one shot per single function of the trigger" language was only meant to adequately distinguish between the semi automatic firearms that were known to Americans in the 1930s and the fully automatic firearms that were known to Americans (primarily law-enforcement and military personnel) in the 1930s.

Therefore, I am not so highly offended that bump stocks have been banned by executive order and notice and comment rulemaking. (Publishing proposed changes in The Federal Register). I am sure that if it hadn't been done that way, Congress would vote to amend the NFA to ban them,

and perhaps while they're messing around with the NFA they would make things worse for us in other ways too!! Which is why the NRA and Prez Trump didn't want Congress screwing with the National Firearms Act itself, and they would prefer a very narrowly focused surgical strike on the bump stocks by BATF.

So you'd rather the president be a dictator and make his own laws as opposed to Congress doing it's job because something bad might happen.

Curious if you could point me in the direction of the law book where one can learn more about this type of legal mumbo jumbo... :confused2:
 
Like I said, you probably like when the POTUS uses EO to do things that you like, but then cry foul when he uses it for something that you don't.

The point is, a local or state jurisdiction refusing to comply with Federal law on both cases, I think is a little hypocritical to say that one is ok but the other is not. Again, based largely on which one you agree with.

And I didn't say that I thought Trump was RIGHT. I said I am surprised this hasn't happened sooner, or that they were allowed at all, considering how strict they are about NFA stuff like full auto weapons.

In terms of practical usage, the bump stock IS a device that converts a semi auto into a full auto. It just is. Argue about how it accomplishes it all day long, it doesn't change anything. It was a dubious work around that skirted the law, and probably shouldn't have been on the market to begin with.

Get rid of the NFA and all this goes away and you can shoot whatever you want. Problem solved.

Even if you are technically right, the defense of the bump stock is VERY thin... Even the NRA realized this and decided it wasn't the battle they wished to fight.
 
And just crossing the news wire! SCOTUS refuses to consider bid to reverse ban on bump stocks. Even with a pro-gun Conservative majority, they didn't feel this was worth pursuing...
 
Like I said, you probably like when the POTUS uses EO to do things that you like, but then cry foul when he uses it for something that you don't.

The point is, a local or state jurisdiction refusing to comply with Federal law on both cases, I think is a little hypocritical to say that one is ok but the other is not. Again, based largely on which one you agree with.

And I didn't say that I thought Trump was RIGHT. I said I am surprised this hasn't happened sooner, or that they were allowed at all, considering how strict they are about NFA stuff like full auto weapons.

In terms of practical usage, the bump stock IS a device that converts a semi auto into a full auto. It just is. Argue about how it accomplishes it all day long, it doesn't change anything. It was a dubious work around that skirted the law, and probably shouldn't have been on the market to begin with.

Get rid of the NFA and all this goes away and you can shoot whatever you want. Problem solved.

Even if you are technically right, the defense of the bump stock is VERY thin... Even the NRA realized this and decided it wasn't the battle they wished to fight.

No matter how many times you say a bump stock converts a semi auto into a full auto, it still doesn't make it true. Words, definitions, and laws matter.

And if the day comes when leftists gain complete control and they want to ban all semi-autos via EO because you can pull the trigger to fast thus "converting a semi auto into a full auto," we'll see just how "hypocritical" you are...

And just crossing the news wire! SCOTUS refuses to consider bid to reverse ban on bump stocks. Even with a pro-gun Conservative majority, they didn't feel this was worth pursuing...

There is no pro gun conservative majority on the SC. There are at most 3 pro-gun justices on that court. Neither Roberts or Kavanaugh are pro-gun or conservative, or would even know the Constitution if it slapped them upside their cuckservative heads...
 
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