Very rude and WTF?

[GeauxLSU]

No I have done no research.. I don’t subscribe to deer corn.. I have grown up around cornfields and am curious to your response.. Does mold differentiate the corn sources? If yes, than your statement is rational.. If the answer is no.. You should target both groups No?

It sounds like you're saying since a crop in the field doesn't widely test for a toxin, then it should ALWAYS be toxin free?
And yes, I'm sure in specific cases you could find it in a field, just like you could find salmonella etc.

 

[GeauxLSU]

Corn is bad for deer...that's why they get in farmers corn fields and eat all the corn they care to eat...I'm going out right now and tell the deer their eating bad food

Tell the meth addicts the same thing. Or heck jyst hang out a drive through. I heard a rumor dogs love anti-freeze.

Logic and "hunters". Not always companions.... (Unfortunately).

 

[BDR1]

Tell the meth addicts the same thing. Or heck jyst hang out a drive through. I heard a rumor dogs love anti-freeze.

Logic and "hunters". Not always companions.... (Unfortunately).

I've told em,but,they won't listen....they just tell me THAT IT TASTE GOOD AND KEEPS THEM FROM BEING SO HUNGRY

 

[GeauxLSU]

I've told em,but,they won't listen....they just tell me THAT IT TASTE GOOD AND KEEPS THEM FROM BEING SO HUNGRY

Some folks never listen. Only so much you can do.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

I don't have a dog in this fight but as our LSU friend asked I did some research. Thought I'd provide some links...

http://counties.agrilife.org/motley/files/2011/05/cautionocrn.pdf

from Texas A&M:

Texas feeds almost : "300 million pounds of corn to deer and other wildlife annually" 300 million pounds? every year? and have you see the deer in Texas?

"Because deer have a complex ruminant digestive system, they don’t seem as susceptible to the effects of mycotoxins as other animals."

"people should avoid buying the corn commonly sold in plastic bags. These bags are much more likely to provide conditions that promote these toxins. Feed corn should be stored in a cool, dry area. and to save our wildlife, hunters should make certain their corn storage facilities and deer feeders are clean and don’t leak."

I dont buy deer feed or any kind of livestock feed, except dog feed for my little ankle biter... so i dont know what Georgia does, but Texas now requires labeling and suggests the following: " To assure a safe corn supply, wildlife specialists recommend that only corn labeled as being less than 20 ppb aflatoxin be used. "

https://www.researchgate.net/public...Corn_Available_as_Wild_Turkey_Feed_in_Georgia

"Samples of corn available as wildlife feed from retailers throughout Georgia (USA) were collected during April 1997 and analyzed for aflatoxin to determine if levels harmful to wild turkeys (Meleagris gallopavo) were present. Three of 31 (10%) samples collected from a 40-country area were positive. An enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay qualitatively determined that two samples contained from 0 to 20 ppb aflatoxin. A chromatography analysis of a third sample measured 380 ppb total aflatoxin. A small percentage of our sample of wildlife feed collected during one season contained levels of aflatoxin that may cause harm to turkeys, especially poults. However, because aflatoxin levels ranging from 100 to 400 ppb may cause liver dysfunction and immunosuppression in turkey poults and other wildlife, grains known to be contaminated with aflatoxin at levels unacceptable for domestic animal feeds (> or =100 ppb) should not be sold as wildlife feed. Further analyses of grains sold as wildlife feed should be conducted to address this potential problem"

 

[Psilloh1]

It sounds like you're saying since a crop in the field doesn't widely test for a toxin, then it should ALWAYS be toxin free?
And yes, I'm sure in specific cases you could find it in a field, just like you could find salmonella etc.

No... That’s not what I am saying at all... It’s a rhetorical question that I expected you to avoid...
There are a bizillion acres of corn planted and harvested per year. I have no academic numbers, but I will bet my life savings, that more Corn gets spillled, left for silage, on the ground from an agricultural perspective vs. Hunters

What hunters spread is a mere grain of sand in the ocean.... Mold doesn’t care how it is put there.. It will grow...

 

[Psilloh1]

I don't have a dog in this fight but as our LSU friend asked I did some research. Thought I'd provide some links...

http://counties.agrilife.org/motley/files/2011/05/cautionocrn.pdf

from Texas A&M:

Texas feeds almost : "300 million pounds of corn to deer and other wildlife annually" 300 million pounds? every year? and have you see the deer in Texas?

"Because deer have a complex ruminant digestive system, they don’t seem as susceptible to the effects of mycotoxins as other animals."

"people should avoid buying the corn commonly sold in plastic bags. These bags are much more likely to provide conditions that promote these toxins. Feed corn should be stored in a cool, dry area. and to save our wildlife, hunters should make certain their corn storage facilities and deer feeders are clean and don’t leak."

I dont buy deer feed or any kind of livestock feed, except dog feed for my little ankle biter... so i dont know what Georgia does, but Texas now requires labeling and suggests the following: " To assure a safe corn supply, wildlife specialists recommend that only corn labeled as being less than 20 ppb aflatoxin be used. "

https://www.researchgate.net/public...Corn_Available_as_Wild_Turkey_Feed_in_Georgia

"Samples of corn available as wildlife feed from retailers throughout Georgia (USA) were collected during April 1997 and analyzed for aflatoxin to determine if levels harmful to wild turkeys (Meleagris gallopavo) were present. Three of 31 (10%) samples collected from a 40-country area were positive. An enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay qualitatively determined that two samples contained from 0 to 20 ppb aflatoxin. A chromatography analysis of a third sample measured 380 ppb total aflatoxin. A small percentage of our sample of wildlife feed collected during one season contained levels of aflatoxin that may cause harm to turkeys, especially poults. However, because aflatoxin levels ranging from 100 to 400 ppb may cause liver dysfunction and immunosuppression in turkey poults and other wildlife, grains known to be contaminated with aflatoxin at levels unacceptable for domestic animal feeds (> or =100 ppb) should not be sold as wildlife feed. Further analyses of grains sold as wildlife feed should be conducted to address this potential problem"

Curious on what a study would be like on planted corn like Gold Kist would be? Because we know deer or turkey would never eat any during planting season...

 

[GeauxLSU]

No... That’s not what I am saying at all... It’s a rhetorical question that I expected you to avoid...
There are a bizillion acres of corn planted and harvested per year. I have no academic numbers, but I will bet my life savings, that more Corn gets spillled, left for silage, on the ground from an agricultural perspective vs. Hunters

What hunters spread is a mere grain of sand in the ocean.... Mold doesn’t care how it is put there.. It will grow...

You are equating a growing crop and and any related silage with a harvested, bagged, transported, and stored for an indeterminate time commodity. The conditions for growing and multiplying molds could hardly be comparable.
Why is produced so often recalled and crops almost never condemned?

 

[Psilloh1]

You are equating a growing crop and and any related silage with a harvested, bagged, transported, and stored for an indeterminate time commodity. The conditions for growing and multiplying molds could hardly be comparable.
Why is produced so often recalled and crops almost never condemned?

Who says it’s not comparable you...?

That’s the difference between not for human consumption, and further processing? Is this a trick question ?....

 

[GeauxLSU]

Who says it’s not comparable you...?

Lol. No, "science". You've obviously made up your mind. Good deal. Since there aren't dead deer waist deep in corn fields, obviously dumping out bags of corn in piles is all good. Those deer would starve to death otherwise. Silly biologists and their "studies"....
Do whatever you want that's legal (now thanks to an executive order by the state's chief biologist, Nathan Deal. Who just happened to get over $300k in contributions from agribusiness). Ignore whatever makes you feel good.
You can lead a horse to water...