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And here we go again (School shooting)

The removal of morals and discipline from the schools and from the home have had devastating consequences on our society. Whether or not you believe in God the laws laid down in the Bible are rules for a principled and just society that western civilization was built on. The left strives every day to break down the barriers that hold civilization together in some misbegotten search for a hedonistic socialist utopia that does not exist.
We wind up with a corrupted youth lacking in faith or discipline with absolutely no moral compass to guide them.

IDK, I kinda like bacon and would like to continue eating it, unless you are limiting yourself to the 10 commandments then I can support like half of them.


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IDK, I kinda like bacon and would like to continue eating it, unless you are limiting yourself to the 10 commandments then I can support like half of them.


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Don't be so pedantic, dude. Levitical food laws are different from the Torah are different from Rabbinical Law. But to your point, it's undeniable that our country was built on Judeo-Christian ideology. Given that the country was not created as a theocracy, though; sure, take out those bits.
 
Don't be so pedantic, dude. Levitical food laws are different from the Torah are different from Rabbinical Law. But to your point, it's undeniable that our country was built on Judeo-Christian ideology. Given that the country was not created as a theocracy, sure take out those bits.

Thomas Paine was about as close to an atheist as one came back then. He was a naturalist-deist-panatheist. (His views shifted throughout his life). At the end of his life, he was increasingly an anti-theist and certainly a loather of Christianity. He was so adamant and vociferous in these beliefs that few people attended his funeral given many of them felt insulted by his statements about their cherished faith.

John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were Christian-Deists. They believed in the social-cultural attitudes of Christianity, but mostly rejected things that were fantastical or unnatural/superstitious. Both rejected the doctrine of the Trinity and the virgin birth. Jefferson especially rejected most of the really extreme "miracles" and other "magical" assertions in the bible as ridiculous and unbelievable. But neither would fit into the category of "atheist". They were secular-Christian-deists.
 
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Thomas Paine was about as close to an atheist as one came back then. He was a naturalist-deist-panatheist. (His views shifted throughout his life). At the end of his life, he was increasingly an anti-theist and certainly a loather of Christianity. He was so adamant and vociferous in these beliefs that few people attended his funeral given many of them felt insulted by his statements about their cherished faith.

John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were Christian-Deists. They believed in the social-cultural attitudes of Christianity, but mostly rejected things that were fantastical or unnatural/superstitious. Both rejected the doctrine of the Trinity and the virgin birth. Jefferson especially rejected most of the really extreme "miracles" and other "magical" assertions in the bible as ridiculous and unbelievable. But neither would fit into the category of "atheist". They were secular-Christian-deists.
You'll get no argument from me on any of the above. Benjamin Franklin himself was, at best, an agnostic - if maybe even a deist. None of that, however, goes an inch to disprove that the country was built on Judeo-Christian hierachy and law. The founding fathers had just left a theocracy that was unbelievably oppresive. To think that they came here to create something similar is ludicrous.

If I have one outstanding issue with my brothers and sisters in Christ, it is that they so often call our country a "Christian nation." It is not. It may well be a nation full of Christians, but the "freedom of religion" guarantees that it is not a "Christian nation." Once your mind is around that, things seem to have a keener perspective.

But anyhow, this is off topic....sorry, hikingthehills hikingthehills
 
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