Sorry about the loss of your friend. I had never heard about this incident until tonight. Sickening is the only way to describe it.
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Sorry about the loss of your friend. I had never heard about this incident until tonight. Sickening is the only way to describe it.
man I dont even know what to say? !@#$%^&* if they would have jumped on the hood of my WHIP with a gun I would have shot him sure as $**T!
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you sir soud like a good man and if what you say is true I wish we had more LEO like you..... hats off to you...
I'm not a LEO but that was most definitely not a smart move by local LEO.
Most LEO's I have worked with are just like me. However our profession, like most, does suffer from imbedded fools. In the course of 20 years I have been on the job the standards for qualification/employment have evolved to match the current average citizens qualifications, and the trend is downward! Just take a look at the usual suspects that always show up in these threads as an example.
Group 1. The current crop of LEO's - who often defend their fellow officers actions when they are indefensible, and because it is the current nature of the LEO command structure to never admit any liability, refuse to call a idiot and idiot and hide behind "Officer Safety". We don't always need to know all the facts before making rational judgment. This case is a prime example. It really doesn't matter if the women had beer, were underage or how they perceived the approaching officers. These clowns response to what they assumed was a misdemeanor crime was idiotic at best, criminal at worst.
Group 2. The over zealous citizen who even though he goes about his life with little to no personal interaction with LE believes that most of LE's interaction with the public parallels this case. Their comments about "police state", "Nazis" and insinuating that killing the idiot LEOs is the answer just goes to show that they are cut from the very same bolt of cloth as the 'Idiots" they hate .
A previous poster made the statement that getting a LEO to condemn the idiot/criminal actions of his fellow officers is about as common as a moderate Muslim condemning the actions a Muslim terrorist. I think that is a valid statement. I also think that getting a rational citizen to do the same to irrational citizen is just as common.
Many rational people on both side of the isle read these threads and the comments made by both "extremes" and don't weigh in. It is time for rational majority to stand up, on both sides, or I think this board will eventually look like all these type threads. No real common sense, free exchange of opinions or rational.....just similar idiots on different sides of an issue with a common thread of asshattery running through the debate.
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I think that many don't bother because they read comments like the ones I posted about above. I know I have read several of these threads and not bothered to comment because I really didn't have any interest in exchanging thoughts/comments with someone that thinks a domesticated dog's life is more valuable, no matter the circumstance, than a humans.
I have just had enough of the stupidity on both sides and decided that if I am not willing to bring what I think to be rational truth to the table and comment in the thread, then I might as well pick a side "of the lesser fools" and because of my silence be grouped with them. To put it another way......The IDIOTS drove me too it
I think that many don't bother because they read comments like the ones I posted about above. I know I have read several of these threads and not bothered to comment because I really didn't have any interest in exchanging thoughts/comments with someone that thinks a domesticated dog's life is more valuable, no matter the circumstance, than a humans.
I have just had enough of the stupidity on both sides and decided that if I am not willing to bring what I think to be rational truth to the table and comment in the thread, then I might as well pick a side "of the lesser fools" and because of my silence be grouped with them. To put it another way......The IDIOTS drove me too it
In full disclosure, I allowed myself to be sucked into the arguments and was immediately labeled a LEO basher and a troll. Shame on me. As for the dog thread, I was sickened by the whole event and my position was the outcome could have been prevented if the officers had acted better. Other LEO's disagreed and the race was on. I did not buy into the view that the dogs life is more valuable, it is not, but I do hold LEO to a higher standard than some loudmouth antagonizing idiot and would have hoped a little situational awareness and good judgment on the LEO's part would have prevented them from killing the dog. My career training taught me an outcome is never the result of any one event, it is the result of cumulative actions, thus the reasoning behind my remarks. In my humble opinion, placing the blame entirely on the idiot owner is a myopic view of the events that led to the end result and watching that dog die needlessly was disturbing to say the least.
What initially got me fired up in this thread was the nonchalant attitude that because the charges against the girls were dropped, no harm, no foul. I say plenty of foul. So much foul in fact, that I took a couple of hours and researched why all the animosity against police and vice versa as I truly had no idea this existed at the level I witnessed here the past few days. For a forum that is based on a common interest to be so deeply divided on what should have been nothing more than a casual discussion is quite telling. In summary, Houston, we have a problem.
In conclusion, if every LEO had your outlook, we would not be having these discussions. I for one, sincerely appreciate you speaking up and for your service to the community. Thank you for all you do.
