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Consequences of Church Carry

Thread in 'Law & Order' started by GAgunLAWbooklet, May 10, 2019.

  1. yellowhammer

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    Yep, I`m pro-gun. Carry every day and everywhere I`m legal.
     
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    SUMMER 44 said:

    "... according to the henry county district attorney that advised our church. who is a member of the administrative board...
    He says the church either allows carry or does not allowed carry, the church can't pick and choose specific individuals.
    ... This is all according to the chief prosecutor in Henry County.


    I've been an Assistant District Attorney, although I only prosected gun crimes when they went along with some other crime, a felony, as part of the same incident. The Solicitor's Office handles misdemeanor-only cases, at least in every county in which there is a Solicitor in addition to the D.A.

    I think the D.A. in Henry County is correct AS TO THE APPLICATION of the "off-limits locations" gun control law, found at O.C.G.A. 16-11-127. If a church opts-in to allow some regular private citizens (who aren't on the 16-11-130 list of special government employees) to carry at the church, then ANY carry permit holder who knows about this decision by the church's leadership CAN legally take advantage of it. This person doesn't need the church's specific permission directed at him or her, and I don't think an announcement of "Nobody can carry at this church except members of our security team and the pastor and the deacons" will change that. Give one GWL holder permission to carry has the effect to TAKING THE CHURCH WEAPONS LAW OFF THE TABLE and making it non-applicable.

    *** HOWEVER*** That doesn't mean that a church, as a private entity owning and controlling its own private property, has no legal method of dealing with unwanted armed citizens carrying on their property against their expressed wishes and policies. While no gun control law applies, the CRIMINAL TRESPASS LAW still would, I think.


    CRIMINAL TRESPASS: 16-7-21
    (b) A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she knowingly ...remains upon the land or premises of another person ... after receiving notice ... to depart.

    Now I believe that the "notice" requirement of 16-7-21 must be specific to one individual, and no signage or publicly-announced policy can give this notice to an entire class or group of people. But if you're in a church with a gun and that gun gets noticed and the pastor or some duly-authorized representative of the church tells you that you must leave the property, you MUST go, ASAP, without standing around to argue or tell them how "I know mah rights." You could get charged under the trespass law if you did.
     
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    Not at all what I said. Wow.
     
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    Post wasn't directed at you or your post. Sorry if u took it that way.
     
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    So, my interpretation of what GA Gun Law Book said.

    A church must allow carry for it to be legal for anyone.

    If a church allows carry, it is open for everyone, however, they have the right to ask you to leave if they don't want you there carrying.

    So, if the church allows carry, you cannot be prosecuted for carrying in a church if caught, only prosecuted if asked to leave and you do not.

    So, a church's policy can be "We allow carry for select members. If you are caught carrying without permission, you may be asked to leave".

    Rosewood
     
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