Marlin 45-70 GSBL help needed - What’s it worth?!

[Clayefus]

Thank you everyone for the discussion. I appreciate the feedback whether it was asked for or not 😉

 

[Clayefus]

Shoot it and see how it works for you. If it works, works for you, and you like it, then nothing else matters.

You won’t be able to get a solid cheekweld with the scope mounted that high. That can degrade your accuracy. For some folks it will make a huge difference…….for others, not so much. Lever guns already have a fair amount of drop to the stock, to facilitate using the low-mounted iron sights. Mounting the center of your scope somewhere around 2.5” over the center of the irons will cause you to lose your cheekweld to see through the scope.

Without a solid cheekweld, there is a trendy for rifles like this to “kick” up and into the shooters cheek, accentuating one of the aspects of felt recoil.

Allow yourself plenty of time before you plan to hunt with it, and take it to the range to shoot for a bit. That will give you time to sort out any problems that you may find. Whenever you’re playing with a system that is new to you, there can be a bit of trial and error.

Yeah I measured up to it after I mounted it too because I had my reserves. I had no issues though. We will see if that changes when fired

 

[rOmiLaYu]

We will see if that changes when fired

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It will.

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Full house rounds that you'll need for hog hunting...well let's just say that a hardcast 425gr bullet going roughly 1900 fps...you're going to get pushed around.

Back on track, I wouldn't sell it. If you're looking for an investment, keep it unfired and sell it later. If it was mine, it'd have already been shot. If you could - and it's no bother - I'd love to know who made that ammo carrier in the back. PM his / her contact. Thanks and best of luck to you.

 

[greg vess]

“There is no mount orientation that is absolute.” This is wrong. There are many mounts that have to be oriented a specific way, or they can cause the installer/shooter serious issues.

Many optics mounts are engineered to be installed a certain way. Deviating from that can sacrifice strength and/or how well the mount retains your optic. On a hard recoiling rifle like the OP’s, you are better off following the correct method of installation. The rings in the pic already are not anywhere near one of the better options, and definitely not what I would recommend.

It’s got an LPVO and irons. Mount that scope lower, and take advantage of the versatility of the LPVO. If you want to use your irons, remove the scope. I don’t even see a necessity for a QD system, just keep the one small tool you need to remove the scope with the rifle. However, there are plenty of quality QD rings readily available.

I am talking about cantilever scope mounts or off set mounts as pictured in the OP. The direction in which they point. Vortex scopes even supports this.

 

[greg vess]

Obviously you wouldn't reverse a 20 MOA rise in backwards. I am referring to 2 piece offset mounts and the direction they point on a picatinny rail. Even the mount manufacturers themselves I have even heard them state that the mounts can be used in any way to allow for fitment that may be restricted by the space allowed for on the scope. For example if one needed to to be reversed due to the space confinement on a particular scope. It is perfectly acceptable. That will not affect mount strength. I have researched the subject and even watch videos from Vortex Scope representatives referencing this exact issue.

I am not your competition. There is no need to defeat every statement I make all thought some are meant to provoke a response.

 

[greg vess]

If we're talking about a set of two piece mounts that are made for a particular receiver then yes that is an absolute.

 

[cmshoot]

I am talking about cantilever scope mounts or off set mounts as pictured in the OP. The direction in which they point. Vortex scopes even supports this.

Vortex supports it for THEIR mounts. What's recommended for one company's products ain't necessarily so for another.

When giving advice to someone, I tend to be very pedantic. If your instructions aren't clear, how can you expect them to have a clear understanding of what you MEAN. They can't read your mind, so they will go off of the words that come out of your mouth, or are typed on the page. Clear communications is a must.

 

[cmshoot]

Obviously you wouldn't reverse a 20 MOA rise in backwards. I am referring to 2 piece offset mounts and the direction they point on a picatinny rail. Even the mount manufacturers themselves I have even heard them state that the mounts can be used in any way to allow for fitment that may be restricted by the space allowed for on the scope. For example if one needed to to be reversed due to the space confinement on a particular scope. It is perfectly acceptable. That will not affect mount strength. I have researched the subject and even watch videos from Vortex Scope representatives referencing this exact issue.

I am not your competition. There is no need to defeat every statement I make all thought some are meant to provoke a response.

Dude, why must you have a chip on your shoulder about every little thing? How many times in the past couple of weeks have you "defended" yourself when the person that posted was not attacking you?

Your post was not clear, and made it sound like something that now I know you didn't mean. If you had been clear in the first place, we wouldn't be here.

You made a vague-ish statement, and did not qualify it with the exceptions to the rule. To you and I, we obviously wouldn't install a 20MOA mount backwards.......BUT, many folks do not know that. I have to explain to folks multiple times a week what exactly a canted/biased base is, and how it works.

If you don't want me chiming in on what you post, keep it correct and keep it clear.

Don't worry, I have never considered you my "competition".

 

[jpm2953]

Best way to explain it, is it’s a marlin sbl. With different sights and furniture. And no threaded barrel. so it would be cheaper than a sbl. And doesn’t come with pic rail. It was made to have sights for faster target acquisition. Just like the nra sig pistols they are just fde vs black… no price value difference expect this gun was downgraded instead of just getting different color furniture

You are missing that this is black nitrided over stainless. That’s a bad to the bone finish that would cost well over $500 to get done. (Just a 1911 is usually $400ish)

 

[greg vess]

Dude, why must you have a chip on your shoulder about every little thing? How many times in the past couple of weeks have you "defended" yourself when the person that posted was not attacking you?

Your post was not clear, and made it sound like something that now I know you didn't mean. If you had been clear in the first place, we wouldn't be here.

You made a vague-ish statement, and did not qualify it with the exceptions to the rule. To you and I, we obviously wouldn't install a 20MOA mount backwards.......BUT, many folks do not know that. I have to explain to folks multiple times a week what exactly a canted/biased base is, and how it works.

If you don't want me chiming in on what you post, keep it correct and keep it clear.

Don't worry, I have never considered you my "competition".

I am not being defensive. A lot of times I am referring to what's in the original post and not referring to the subject matter as a whole. You are correct I should have been clear on my post. I am not trying to be an ass I just want you to know that I am not trying to compete with you. I appreciate your input because it does clarify what needs to be hit on so other novice players get the right info.

So you are correct to ( correct ) what is not clear and I should have been a little more accurate. I just don't want to rock the boat in my old age. Sometimes my statements my offend but I am not trying to do that. None of my post are made in anger.