MOA vs MIL

[AI-AR10-Dan]

Being a service rifle shooter for a few years I cut my shooting teeth sighting a rifle in MOA. It was easy, 1" (1.047) at a hundred yards is ~1moa, 1/4 click = .25", 1 quarter min click at 600 yards is 1.5" (6x.25"=1.5"). I used to be anti mil since I didn't know what the deal was. But I learned a mil is 1/1000 the distance to the target and when you do the fancy math it works out to 3.6" at a hundred yards so a 1/10th click is .36" or a long third of an inch. Knowing this I became less anti mil since its just a matter of working in thirds instead of quarters however the approximate thirds are longer than the quarters .36"vs .26". Plus it would seem to me that the 1/10mil is not as accurate as 1/4moa. Why would someone choose mils?

But, since I did not start with mils how does someone's brain work when they are sighting? Are you thinking X00 rds is X x .3"?

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[coach482]

I learned MIL first, MOA requires more thought on my part.

 

[alexs2006]

I perfer MIL to MOA eventhough I have always used MOA. MOA is still easier to me, but its easier to learn looking through the scope. Plus dialing elevation/windage it's less clicks than MOA.

 

[cmshoot]

Some folks find MILs to be easier and more intuitive to use than MOA.

It can also depend on what units of measurement you're using. .1mil is equal to 1cm @ 100m.

At the end of the day, it doesn't make a difference which system you choose to use, as long as you know how to use it. In the courses I teach, I don't see students getting more hits, or ranging targets more correctly, with one system over the other.

 

[alexs2006]

Some folks find MILs to be easier and more intuitive to use than MOA.

It can also depend on what units of measurement you're using. .1mil is equal to 1cm @ 100m.

At the end of the day, it doesn't make a difference which system you choose to use, as long as you know how to use it. In the courses I teach, I don't see students getting more hits, or ranging targets more correctly, with one system over the other.

I agree. I switched to MILL's because thats what all the guys around me use so it's easier for us to help one another.

 

[AI-AR10-Dan]

.1mil is equal to 1cm @ 100m.

Ah, the metric system, sellout! : o) But I get it everything is x10. 1/10 click at 600m is 6cm.

 

[Timber Cruiser]

Being a service rifle shooter for a few years I cut my shooting teeth sighting a rifle in MOA. It was easy, 1" (1.047) at a hundred yards is ~1moa, 1/4 click = .25", 1 quarter min click at 600 yards is 1.5" (6x.25"=1.5"). I used to be anti mil since I didn't know what the deal was. But I learned a mil is 1/1000 the distance to the target and when you do the fancy math it works out to 3.6" at a hundred yards so a 1/10th click is .36" or a long third of an inch. Knowing this I became less anti mil since its just a matter of working in thirds instead of quarters however the approximate thirds are longer than the quarters .36"vs .26". Plus it would seem to me that the 1/10mil is not as accurate as 1/4moa. Why would someone choose mils?

But, since I did not start with mils how does someone's brain work when they are sighting? Are you thinking X00 rds is X x .3"?

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[alexs2006]

.1mil is equal to 1cm @ 100m.

Ah, the metric system, sellout! : o) But I get it everything is x10. 1/10 click at 600m is 6cm.

We all know the metric system of measurement is easier than fractions and crap

 

[cmshoot]

We all know the metric system of measurement is easier than fractions and crap

Most of my precision rifle and Sniper students find MOAs easier to use than MRADs.

 

[ReservoirDawg10]

OK, one is not intrinsically better than the other. They are both simply a measurement of an angle.

If you can count to 10, mils really are not difficult.

Dialing amd holding both tend to be simpler and faster using mils. 7.2 mils vs 24.75 moa. Very simple. Quicker and easier to read on the turret and on your reticle. And fewer numbers to remember when on the go.

If you are shooting competitions or with mil/Leo, or with international shooters, they are more than likely using mil. Easier calls and communication when shooter and spotter are both speaking the same language and faster as there are no conversions being performed by either the shooter or the spotter. Also, less error in not having to convert, member the conversion number, and again, dealing in simpler calls.

But, if your shooting group is primarily running moa, it is easier for you to run the same. Again, same language and all.

Zeroing your rifle. Either mil or moa, the most accurate method is to actually use your reticle to mill the adjustment rather than guess and start turning. Same goes for correcting misses. Mill the correction, hold or dial said correction.

MOA in and of itself can be confusing and manufacturers don't actually label their stuff correctly all of the time and will actually mix MOA and IPHY (shooters moa - inch per hundred yards). Looking at you, Leupold.

Neither is "wrong," but moa is for unwashed heathen.