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I never did get to see the dash cam video. I submitted an open records request for the video and was told there was no video, so I pressed them and asked if they simply did not have the video yet or if it didn't exist period. They came back and said that the officer's patrol car was not equipped with a dash cam and that there was no video for my traffic stop. I took their word for it. I had that email exchange printed and had it with me when I went to court. I wish now that I would have shown it to the judge. If they would have simply told me back in November that they didn't have the video yet but to check back with them I would have been fine with it, but they blatantly lied to me.Did you ever get to see the dash cam ?
The one the cop and solicitor said they didn't have but we're watching it when they spoke to you on the phone ?
as someone who does open records request and medical records request for a living......never take no for an answer.I never did get to see the dash cam video. I submitted an open records request for the video and was told there was no video, so I pressed them and asked if they simply did not have the video yet or if it didn't exist period. They came back and said that the officer's patrol car was not equipped with a dash cam and that there was no video for my traffic stop. I took their word for it. I had that email exchange printed and had it with me when I went to court. I wish now that I would have shown it to the judge. If they would have simply told me back in November that they didn't have the video yet but to check back with them I would have been fine with it, but they blatantly lied to me.
Probably had one on the bus.I never did get to see the dash cam video. I submitted an open records request for the video and was told there was no video, so I pressed them and asked if they simply did not have the video yet or if it didn't exist period. They came back and said that the officer's patrol car was not equipped with a dash cam and that there was no video for my traffic stop. I took their word for it. I had that email exchange printed and had it with me when I went to court. I wish now that I would have shown it to the judge. If they would have simply told me back in November that they didn't have the video yet but to check back with them I would have been fine with it, but they blatantly lied to me.
probably, but if that were the case they would still need to release the video if they had it in their possession or would have it in their possessionProbably had one on the bus.
For someone that works in the court, you keep forgetting things.probably, but if that were the case they would still need to release the video if they had it in their possession or would have it in their possession
the idea of an ORR is to give both sides ample time to prepare for court. so if video evidence exists of an incident it needs to be released to both parties
huh? when i make an ORR im not specific at all, i am very broad to include ALL types of documents because i know alot of folks have this mind set about technicalities; for instance "you didnt request cad logs with your 911 requests, only audio recordings". or another neat trick alot of departments like to do is give you like 2 months of video from their dash cam and essentially make you go through it all (even though you specifically request the time frame and date so the additional footage is just irrelevant).For someone that works in the court, you keep forgetting things.
The school is not part of the legal system, and the tape wouldn't have been requested from the bus until the OP signaled he wanted to dispute this case. AND a ORA request MUST be specific and not broad in nature.
You have to be specific as to who what when, and mostly what department you want the evidence to come from.huh? when i make an ORR im not specific at all, i am very broad to include ALL types of documents because i know alot of folks have this mind set about technicalities; for instance "you didnt request cad logs with your 911 requests, only audio recordings". or another neat trick alot of departments like to do is give you like 2 months of video from their dash cam and essentially make you go through it all (even though you specifically request the time frame and date so the additional footage is just irrelevant).
so i ask for everything, that way when they balk or down the line someone "discovers" it, i can use my prior ORR to show make a case they were stubborn or unwilling to cooperate (either because they were intentionally resistant or inept, but either way it makes them look bad)
alot of departments (the smaller ones) cut right to the chase and will call you to know exactly what you want, and 99% of the time the ORR is a nonissue.
hell, i could argue that the ORR doesnt have a time limitation (or make it known in my request that this is a standing request) and that when the office, firm, or whoever was made aware of a document that falls under 50-18-70 disclosure rules, then they have a duty to inform and produce it
but its the government. you will get 4 or 5 conflicting answers, opinions, or reasons for any one thing.