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So what’s the deal with pre lock?

Reliability wise, peoples mileage varies. All mass produced goods given the opportunity can fail. Making calls can be tough. Say placing 500 rounds to test reliability can be debatable. If so, was it better or worse on the 499th round run through it before round 500 was slung down range? This is where mileage varies.

Sure, because round 501 could be where it jams, or the firing pin snaps, trigger bar pops off, etc...

Saying something has been 100% reliable just means it has BEEN reliable. It doesn't in any way imply that it will always BE reliable...

Past performance is not indicative of future performance, as they say...

I had a new Glock 36 that was a jamomatic, even after going back to the factory to be fixed...

Should I never own another Glock? I mean, I had one fail, so how can I trust the others, right?
 
Great, now I can't carry ANY gun, because I can't find a single brand or model on Youtube that some guy hasn't have an issue with...

Sigh... I am so screwed now... What about rocks, can I carry rocks? Do they fail?

Look man. You want to put down anyone who isn't as risk tolerant as you are. If you feel comfortable with a gun with a lock, then that's fine. But you want to get ****ty with anyone who disagrees with you bc you don't think it's a legitimate gripe.
 
Great, now I can't carry ANY gun, because I can't find a single brand or model on Youtube that some guy hasn't have an issue with...

Sigh... I am so screwed now... What about rocks, can I carry rocks? Do they fail?
Depending on mileage, some people opt for two pistols carried at once so if gun 1 fails and can't be fixed in seconds, just draw gun 2. It gets very hypothetical after that when asking what if gun 2 fails, then carry a third or fourth backup. It's just about how far of a chance one is willing to handle.
 
Sure, because round 501 could be where it jams, or the firing pin snaps, trigger bar pops off, etc...

Saying something has been 100% reliable just means it has BEEN reliable. It doesn't in any way imply that it will always BE reliable...

Past performance is not indicative of future performance, as they say...

I had a new Glock 36 that was a jamomatic, even after going back to the factory to be fixed...

Should I never own another Glock? I mean, I had one fail, so how can I trust the others, right?

And right here you just COMPLETELY contradicted yourself.
 
Look man. You want to put down anyone who isn't as risk tolerant as you are. If you feel comfortable with a gun with a lock, then that's fine. But you want to get ****ty with anyone who disagrees with you bc you don't think it's a legitimate gripe.

First of all, learn to take a joke now and again... it will add years to your life to not be so wound up and angry all the time...

Second... I don't know if I had a second point...

Third, it's not whether I am tolerant of risk or not. It is whether there even IS a risk, or if it is merely perception.

In a nutshell, that's what the debate is. Does the lock actually make the revolver less reliable. I don't care why someone thinks that it will, or that it might, or that it should... DOES it. HAS it.

What were the failure rates of Smith revolvers before the lock, vs after the lock? Was there any significant shift that can be attributed to the introduction of the lock?

If yes, then you would be right and I would be wrong.

If not, well, you see how this goes...
 
when you have something that is less than 1 in a million, it's pretty insignificant...

Why carry at all? When you get up in the morning what's the chance of you using your weapon to defend yourself? Pretty insignificant chance, huh?

I've got no dog in this fight, but what are the chances of you trying to drag an argument out well beyond any reasonable limit? Just a tad higher maybe?
 
First of all, learn to take a joke now and again... it will add years to your life to not be so wound up and angry all the time...

Second... I don't know if I had a second point...

Third, it's not whether I am tolerant of risk or not. It is whether there even IS a risk, or if it is merely perception.

In a nutshell, that's what the debate is. Does the lock actually make the revolver less reliable. I don't care why someone thinks that it will, or that it might, or that it should... DOES it. HAS it.

What were the failure rates of Smith revolvers before the lock, vs after the lock? Was there any significant shift that can be attributed to the introduction of the lock?

If yes, then you would be right and I would be wrong.

If not, well, you see how this goes...
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