what is the problem

[PerrynSteph]

I like the way they both shoot,and price.RELOAD before the prices go over a buck apiece

 

[HELVIS88]

[Broken External Image]: I prefer bumblebee

 

[DaveTheMinion]

I told you there would be a thread about this again??? remember!!
http://www.theoutdoorstrader.com/threads/272843-Gun-for-sale-poll?p=1483553&viewfull=1#post1483553

Even then, if I was to start a thread right now and say that my 9mm is superior to the .40 cal, I'd have 200 folks jumping like crazy saying their .40 cal is the best thing since sliced bread. People just aint buying much right now.

 

[Tony2X]

There is no such thing as knockdown power.

Depends on what you want to knock down.

 

[layers95]

Hilarious. Do you think police departments actually choose the "best" gun? Their choice is dictated probably 95% of the time by accountants and the vendor that sells the cheapest in terms of guns and ammo. They probably select .40 as their off duty gun as they get free practice ammo.

Bottom line is many folks don't like .40 and nothing is going to change that. I have a couple only because I like options in case of another ammo shortage but it will never be my caliber of choice - I carry a .45 and plink with a 9mm...

you have nothing and criticize facts because u cannot come up with anything better.

 

[edzackley]

I think this will show why we all avoid the .40:

A finding chart of ST Tri (V), the comparison (C) and check star (K) are given in Figure 3 along with the WU Ma variable GSC 2336 0281. Six mean epochs of minimum light were determined from B,V,R,I timings of two primary and four secondary eclipses: HJD I = 2453000.85415(13), 2453319.9022 (4) and HJD II = 2452995.8239 (8), 2452999.6577(10), 2453313.9182(31) and 2453319.66019(22) using parabola fits. We calculated the following ephemeris from all timings:

HJD Tmin I = 2451550.2872 (16) + 0.47905145(19) d ×E

The period appears to have been constant over the past 30,000 orbital cycles. Future precision timings and archival work is needed to reveal the long term period behavior of this system.

The light curves show an interval of constant light in the secondary eclipse revealing the system to be one of the rare EB binaries with total eclipses. Thus, our solution is unambiguous. Pre-modeling was done with Binary Maker 2.0 (Bradstreet 1992). This indicated that a pre-contact Algol-like model was best. From the starting parameters, a simultaneous BVRI synthetic Wilson code (Wilson & Devinney 1971, Wilson 1990, 1994) solution was calculated. The binary has a secondary, cooler component filling its Roche Lobe and a primary component filling 98% of its associated critical surface. The mass ratio is 0.38 and the temperature difference is about 1900 K. The secondary, less massive component is a K-type dwarf. A hot spot was adjusted on the primary component to a mid-latitude position. Its place precludes it from being a stream impact spot so it would be identified as a facula arising from magnetic activity. An Algol-like configuration usually means that the more massive, now detached star, had once filled its critical Roche surface. Thus, the binary may be approaching its final, W UMa, contact stage. The solution is shown overlaying the data in Figures 1 and 2. A geometrical representation of ST Tri with a spot is given in Figure 4. The complete model is given in Table 1.

TABLE I


Synthetic light-curve parameters for ST Tri

{lambda}B, {lambda}V, {lambda}R, {lambda}I (nm) 440, 550, 640, 790
x1B, x2B, y1B, y2B 0.794, 0.852, 0.263, -0.018
x1V, x2V, y1V, y2V 0.698, 0.798, 0.256, 0.006
x1R, x2R, y1R, y2R 0.604, 0.797, 0.284, 0.108
x1I, x2I, y1I, y2I 0.514, 0.616, 0.246, 0.16
g1 , g2 0.32, 0.32
A1 , A2 0.500, 0.500
xbol1,xbol2,ybol1,ybol2 0.641 , 0.643, 0.246 , 0.16
Inclination 87°.2 ± 0°.5
T1, T2 (K) 6750, 4890 ± 0.0004
{Omega}1, {Omega}2 2.670 ± 0.002, 2.6197
q (m2/m1) 0.381 ± 0.001
pshift 0.0001 ± 0.0004
L1/(L1+L2)B 0.937 ± 0.001
L1/(L1+L2)V 0.912 ± 0.001
L1/(L1+L2)R 0.895 ± 0.001
L1/(L1+L2)I 0.873 ± 0.001
r1, r2 (pole) 0.431 ± 0.001, 0.279 ± 0.001
r1, r2 (point) 0.543 ± 0.001, 0.402 ± 0.004
r1, r2 (side) 0.459 ± 0.001, 0.290 ± 0.001
r1, r2 (back) 0.483 ± 0.001, 0.323 ± 0.009
fill-out1, fill-out2 98.11 ± 0.06%, 100%
Spot Parameters: Primary Component
Colatitude 121°± 1°
Longitude 157°.8 ± 0°.3
Spot radius 10°.6 ± 0°.3
Temperature factor 1.116 ± 0.005

Now, don't ask again.

 

[mtdawg169]

the terminal ballistics between 40 and 9 are negligible.

I carry a 9mm. I dont own a 40 or a 45. Why? Because with federal HST and many other SD loads, it opens up enough to do what I need it to. Plus my pistol holds 17+1 rounds. Plus I can practice for a LOT cheaper. If you like the 40... well good for you. I dont. The 9mm does more than enough. Its a proven round that has proven itself since it was developed for the luger.

Plus shot placement is EVERYTHING. Id take a hit with a 9mm over a miss with a 40 anyday of the week.

Glad to see some factual information posted in a caliber discussion! 9mm performs on par with 40 in terms of penetration and expansion through various mediums as prescribed by FBI testing protocols.

 

[DaveTheMinion]

I own a. 40, I'm confident with it and my abilities, I'm equally confident in the 9mm and my abilities with that as well. Why do I own a. 40? cuz I got it at a better price than a 9mm.

 

[Lockout]

what a joke

 

[Lockout]

Last time I check I have the right to buy what ever I want,.40 cal or 9mm ....I dare those criminals