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"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin

How The World Butchered Benjamin Franklin’s Quote On Liberty Vs. Security​

gregory Ferenstein1:04 PM EST•February 14, 2014
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One of America’s favorite liberal phrases has been sent through the political spin machine and polished into a Frankenstein of sorts, thus rendering it inaccurate and far from its original intention. You might have heard that American founding father Benjamin Franklin said something like “Those who give up liberty for security deserve neither.”
The quote has been the siren song of anti-war protesters and, most recently, the banner for mass online protests against the NSA’s surveillance program. For instance, here was Reddit’s front page two days ago, when it officially joined the fight against Internet and phone spying.
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As the Brookings Institute’s Benjamin Wittes observes, “Very few people who quote these words, however, have any idea where they come from or what Franklin was really saying when he wrote them.”

Despite its many (many) variations, this is the actual quote:
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
According to Wittes, the words appear in a letter widely presumed to be written by Franklin in 1755 on behalf of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the colonial governor. “The letter was a salvo in a power struggle between the governor and the assembly over funding for security on the frontier, one in which the assembly wished to tax the lands of the Penn family,” he explains.
The letter wasn’t about liberty but about taxes and the ability to “raise money for defense against French and Indian attacks. The governor kept vetoing the assembly’s efforts at the behest of the family, which had appointed him.”
Indeed, if you look at the text surrounding the famous quote, it’s pretty clearly about money: “Our assemblies have of late had so many supply bill, and of such different kinds, rejected, on various pretences,” wrote Franklin.

There’s not much on liberty, as we understand the concept, in the entire letter.
 

How The World Butchered Benjamin Franklin’s Quote On Liberty Vs. Security​

gregory Ferenstein1:04 PM EST•February 14, 2014
Comment
One of America’s favorite liberal phrases has been sent through the political spin machine and polished into a Frankenstein of sorts, thus rendering it inaccurate and far from its original intention. You might have heard that American founding father Benjamin Franklin said something like “Those who give up liberty for security deserve neither.”
The quote has been the siren song of anti-war protesters and, most recently, the banner for mass online protests against the NSA’s surveillance program. For instance, here was Reddit’s front page two days ago, when it officially joined the fight against Internet and phone spying.
screen-shot-2014-02-11-at-10-43-33-am

As the Brookings Institute’s Benjamin Wittes observes, “Very few people who quote these words, however, have any idea where they come from or what Franklin was really saying when he wrote them.”

Despite its many (many) variations, this is the actual quote:

According to Wittes, the words appear in a letter widely presumed to be written by Franklin in 1755 on behalf of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the colonial governor. “The letter was a salvo in a power struggle between the governor and the assembly over funding for security on the frontier, one in which the assembly wished to tax the lands of the Penn family,” he explains.
The letter wasn’t about liberty but about taxes and the ability to “raise money for defense against French and Indian attacks. The governor kept vetoing the assembly’s efforts at the behest of the family, which had appointed him.”
Indeed, if you look at the text surrounding the famous quote, it’s pretty clearly about money: “Our assemblies have of late had so many supply bill, and of such different kinds, rejected, on various pretences,” wrote Franklin.

There’s not much on liberty, as we understand the concept, in the entire letter.
Yep every day is a school day no matter the age. Arent we glad we can read?
 

How The World Butchered Benjamin Franklin’s Quote On Liberty Vs. Security​

gregory Ferenstein1:04 PM EST•February 14, 2014
Comment
One of America’s favorite liberal phrases has been sent through the political spin machine and polished into a Frankenstein of sorts, thus rendering it inaccurate and far from its original intention. You might have heard that American founding father Benjamin Franklin said something like “Those who give up liberty for security deserve neither.”
The quote has been the siren song of anti-war protesters and, most recently, the banner for mass online protests against the NSA’s surveillance program. For instance, here was Reddit’s front page two days ago, when it officially joined the fight against Internet and phone spying.
screen-shot-2014-02-11-at-10-43-33-am

As the Brookings Institute’s Benjamin Wittes observes, “Very few people who quote these words, however, have any idea where they come from or what Franklin was really saying when he wrote them.”

Despite its many (many) variations, this is the actual quote:

According to Wittes, the words appear in a letter widely presumed to be written by Franklin in 1755 on behalf of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the colonial governor. “The letter was a salvo in a power struggle between the governor and the assembly over funding for security on the frontier, one in which the assembly wished to tax the lands of the Penn family,” he explains.
The letter wasn’t about liberty but about taxes and the ability to “raise money for defense against French and Indian attacks. The governor kept vetoing the assembly’s efforts at the behest of the family, which had appointed him.”
Indeed, if you look at the text surrounding the famous quote, it’s pretty clearly about money: “Our assemblies have of late had so many supply bill, and of such different kinds, rejected, on various pretences,” wrote Franklin.

There’s not much on liberty, as we understand the concept, in the entire letter.


I didn’t ask about the Ben Franklin quote, nice straw man though. I’m still waiting for the law requiring you to verify ID while conducting a face to face transaction in Georgia and a case where someone has been charged for not verifying ID. It is amusing seeing all the twisting and turning and throwing around people’s age but none of you will actually answer the question. Stop hiding behind the claim that you are protecting yourself and just admit it. You like making up rules. There is no reason for it other than it makes you feel some sort of control. I already proved one of you to have a weak constitution, he folded up a like a lawn chair rather than defend his claim of safety. Who’s next? You want to require ID, you want to require a bill of sale, fine. Like I said, that is your right to do so, just don’t try to hide behind some big state boogie man. That kind of fear mongering is what the leftist and gun control advocates want. If you’re not one of them, then stop doing their bidding.

Then again your sig line is a quote from a raging leftist that gave us the gift of handouts, more taxes, and big government spending. I’m not surprised you want more control.
 
I didn’t ask about the Ben Franklin quote, nice straw man though. I’m still waiting for the law requiring you to verify ID while conducting a face to face transaction in Georgia and a case where someone has been charged for not verifying ID. It is amusing seeing all the twisting and turning and throwing around people’s age but none of you will actually answer the question. Stop hiding behind the claim that you are protecting yourself and just admit it. You like making up rules. There is no reason for it other than it makes you feel some sort of control. I already proved one of you to have a weak constitution, he folded up a like a lawn chair rather than defend his claim of safety. Who’s next? You want to require ID, you want to require a bill of sale, fine. Like I said, that is your right to do so, just don’t try to hide behind some big state boogie man. That kind of fear mongering is what the leftist and gun control advocates want. If you’re not one of them, then stop doing their bidding.

Then again your sig line is a quote from a raging leftist that gave us the gift of handouts, more taxes, and big government spending. I’m not surprised you want more control.
Knowing things about Fulton County Ga that HOPEFULLY all of us know... would you sell a firearm within Fulton County and if so, you you give just a little more thought to getting some documentation?
 
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