You mean 'pocket shotguns'?Good write up. I didn't see anything mentioned about the Judge or Governor for defense........
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You mean 'pocket shotguns'?Good write up. I didn't see anything mentioned about the Judge or Governor for defense........
Lol you didn't say .5 sec in the earlier post! For my time just move the decimal point two places to the right...
You mean 'pocket shotguns'?
You're a brave man calling your wife a "wide".I have often thought about making a shotgun my home defence weapon but have steered away from it. I believe it may be a good option for some people but I have decided for me a good 9mm pistol is my best option. I have 2 kids and a wide and have decided having a free hand to be able to control them in a panic if needed. I have a tactical advantage in my homes layout if we had a breaking ar night and we have a plan in place.
Haha. Very far from the truth but she would punch me.You're a brave man calling your wife a "wide".
With 9-pellet, Federal LE Reduced Recoil 00 buck, my 14” Rem870 groups about 5 1/2” at 25 yards. At 7 yards the “pattern” isn’t appreciably wider than a 12ga slug.
Too much bad info out there on use of buckshot for self defense. Too many folks trying to OPEN their patterns when they should be tightening them up. I paid good money to have my Modified choke barrel worked on by Vang Comp; backbored and forcing cone lengthened.
Coupla' questions...How did your Barrel pattern BEFORE Hans Vang worked on it? How does it pattern "Regular" Buckshot loads now, as opposed to the Low Recoil loads w/the Flite Control Wad? Do you have any idea what the actual Choke Constriction is now versus what it was BEFORE the work?
If, as one of the articles the O.P. cited in this thread says, the key advantage of a shotgun is stopping power (one -hit lethality), why not just use a .308 carbine instead? Something with a 16" -18" barrel and fed from a 20-round magazine?
With 150-grain rapidly expanding (or even fragmenting) bullets (not FMJ), there should be about the same massive tissue damage as a tight pattern of buckshot.
The 150 gr. ballitstic tip type varmint bullet at 2600 f.p.s. velocity ( from a semi auto carbine, short bbl.) would not overpenetrate with a solid torso hit.
(If you just wing the bad guy in the bicep or pop a slug through his oblique muscles on the side of his abdomen, you're going to get overpenetration no matter what gun you use).
I think having 20 rounds of rifle ammo would be more useful than having 5 to 8 rounds of shotgun ammo.
I think having a gun that uses quick detachable box magazines is better than having a gun that needs to be reloaded one round at a time through the side or bottom, into a tubular magazine .
I think a semi auto .30 caliber rifle that generates maybe 12 foot pounds recoil energy is a better choice for combat then a 12-bore shotgun loaded with a high brass buckshot load which would generate 25+ pounds of recoil energy.
I think the versatility of having a rifle which, even with iron sights, can be effectively used out to 400 yards is better than a combat shotgun which is regarded as being a 50 yard weapon, but more like 30 yards if you want to retain the advantage of a tight pattern that keeps all the buckshot pellets in the center of the adversary's chest.