Franklin Arms short barreled firearm with rifle buttstock but no ATF paperwork?
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they say its not a shotgun either. my only guess is where they refer to an sbr as having an over all length of under 26" and that length is measured fully extended. So lets say the stock completely telescopes out to make the rifle over 26" long, now you would never use it full extended obviously but may be ok just by the fact that it can extended out that long. beyond that i dont have a ****ing clue how they could be getting away with this
prob would be a negative as they are going to somehow have to register these lowers as not a rifle. slap that upper on any lower registered as a rifle and boom felony.
It's a laser gun...
Anything that highlights the absurdity of Unconstitutional NFA laws is a win. And you can bet the sellout NRA will request the ATF to review it again and again and again...
Anything that highlights the absurdity of Unconstitutional NFA laws is a win. And you can bet the sellout NRA will request the ATF to review it again and again and again...
LOL... The ATF are big boys... they can make their own mistakes without the NRA helping.
At this point the whole SBR/SBS part of the NFA is a moot point. Even if this never makes it out at all, between 'shockwaves' and pistols there's almost no reason to go through the NFA hassle.
I've been playing around with the Echo and Franklin binary triggers, and honestly, I don't see much point in a full auto gun these days either. You can get 80% of the effect for 20% of the cost.
The only thing we can't work around these days is suppressors, which should never have even been included in a 'firearms' act in the first place.
At this point the whole SBR/SBS part of the NFA is a moot point. Even if this never makes it out at all, between 'shockwaves' and pistols there's almost no reason to go through the NFA hassle.
I've been playing around with the Echo and Franklin binary triggers, and honestly, I don't see much point in a full auto gun these days either. You can get 80% of the effect for 20% of the cost.
The only thing we can't work around these days is suppressors, which should never have even been included in a 'firearms' act in the first place.
Man, I honestly couldn’t tell you. All these bull**** ATF laws are so confusing that I don’t even think THEY understand them all!
Besides a smooth bore all I can think of is some kind of extension of the barrel into the upper receiver making it 16". Like say you pull the barrel from the receiver and it's one solid piece 16.1 inches? The last 4.5 inches being kinda a half barrel that extends beyond the chamber?
But the 18” barrel requirement for shotguns, and the 16” barrel requirement for rifles, applies REGARDLESS of the OAL requirement.
If the gun were a “rifle” it would have to meet both bbl and OAL measurements.
Maybe that “standard AR stock” is called a “non-stock rear counterweight” or some such BS?
Maybe the owner’s manual for the gun tells you never to shoulder it?
Maybe the owner’s manual for the gun tells you never to shoulder it?
What round does this weapon fire?
Maybe it shoots plastic AirSoft BB’s or something.
I had a full auto paintball gun that used magnum pistol primers in plastic cases as the propelling force, not air.
Maybe it shoots plastic AirSoft BB’s or something.
I had a full auto paintball gun that used magnum pistol primers in plastic cases as the propelling force, not air.
