I'm sorry... Still can't justify spending 600-1200 for a gun that is somewhat butt ugly, feels cheap in my hands, and has a pistol grip that feels like it was an after thought... No arguing it works well but I don't drive a butt ugly car every day because it works well either... Life's short you have to buy what is appealing to you... I know if I bought one just on looks and feel alone I wouldn't shoot it much so it would be a waste for me.