Who has an all electric vehicle- how long are your tires lasting?

[spistols]

Spoke to several high level tire industry people and all of them said that tires on EV vehicles (Tesla, etc.) are lasting about 1/3 to 1/4 of what a normal gas powered vehicle's tires would last. Some are even seeing tires get less than 10K miles. These is all due to the weight of the battery and excessive torque of the electric motors.

So, if anyone has an EV hoping to save the world by reducing emissions, they are polluting 3-4x more with tires that don't decompose...maybe in the next 80-2,000 years (internet is all over the board with exactly how long it may take) they will, buried somewhere, but not relatively soon.

What is your experience?

 

[Control for Smilers]

Spoke to several high level tire industry people and all of them said that tires on EV vehicles (Tesla, etc.) are lasting about 1/3 to 1/4 of what a normal gas powered vehicle's tires would last. Some are even seeing tires get less than 10K miles. These is all due to the weight of the battery and excessive torque of the electric motors.

So, if anyone has an EV hoping to save the world by reducing emissions, they are polluting 3-4x more with tires that don't decompose...maybe in the next 80-2,000 years (internet is all over the board with exactly how long it may take) they will, buried somewhere, but not relatively soon.

What is your experience?

not to mention the millions of tons of dirt that are mined for the batteries. And the coal to charge them up. EVs are cool for the torque factor...but anyone thinking they are "green" is mistaken.

 

[rbstern]

Spoke to several high level tire industry people and all of them said that tires on EV vehicles (Tesla, etc.) are lasting about 1/3 to 1/4 of what a normal gas powered vehicle's tires would last. Some are even seeing tires get less than 10K miles. These is all due to the weight of the battery and excessive torque of the electric motors.

So, if anyone has an EV hoping to save the world by reducing emissions, they are polluting 3-4x more with tires that don't decompose...maybe in the next 80-2,000 years (internet is all over the board with exactly how long it may take) they will, buried somewhere, but not relatively soon.

What is your experience?

Don't have any industry sources, but I've seen 20% to 30% less tire life. NOT 1/3 to 1/4 of tire life.

Keep in mind, it's offset by EV's longer lasting brakes, no oil, filters, belts, plugs or plug wires. EVs are less maintenance intensive.

I'm not an EV fan, but I don't want to see minor flaws hyped into major ones. For me, it's about lack of range, particularly under adverse conditions, slow charge times, the power grid's ability to carry a nationwide fleet of EVs, and the potential fire hazard of EV batteries.

 

[GAGunguy]

Don't have any industry sources, but I've seen 20% to 30% less tire life. NOT 1/3 to 1/4 of tire life.

Keep in mind, it's offset by EV's longer lasting brakes, no oil, filters, belts, plugs or plug wires. EVs are less maintenance intensive.

I'm not an EV fan, but I don't want to see minor flaws hyped into major ones. For me, it's about lack of range, particularly under adverse conditions, slow charge times, the power grid's ability to carry a nationwide fleet of EVs, and the potential fire hazard of EV batteries.

Lack of range and charging time is my issue.

The other thing is that no one, I mean no one, is going to replace their EV when it dies, or needs a new battery, or a new computer in 5-7 years. They are going to be disposable appliances.

My buddy's Tesla hit 6 years old and it was a nightmare of alarms and computer issues. He had one of the original Tesla's that included lifetime charging, so he planned on keeping it for 10+ years, thats what he calculated was his break even on a gas car. He had every reason to keep it, and he decided to buy a different model EV, not a new Tesla.

Plenty of old cars, jeeps, trucks still on the road with a rebuilt or swapped engine. There a a couple million LS engines in junk yard that can be re-used. Thats not going to happen with EV's you cant rebuild the battery pack or the sensors, or the computer. Its like an old laptop, the only place for it is in the landfill.

Plus they are all god awful ugly.

 

[lostchild]

not to mention the millions of tons of dirt that are mined for the batteries. And the coal to charge them up. EVs are cool for the torque factor...but anyone thinking they are "green" is mistaken.

Yeah, don’t think I’ve ever seen a ‘’green’’ one. Most seem to be either ’’white’’ or some shade of ‘’gray’’.

 

[BillsCamino]

Yep...short tire life and very pricey to replace.

 

[lostchild]

I got 6600 miles on the oem E70x14 Red Stripe Tiger Paw rear tires on my ’69 Nova SS when it was new.

 

[spistols]

I have an NOS Uniroyal F70-15 snow tire for sale, if anyone wants to do donuts at night and light up the sky with the studs on their musclecar!

Bought if off the rack at a tire dealer in Emporia, KS.

 

[moosensquirrel]

Solar power is not a “green” technology. Being “green” is a deceptive socialist-political invention that is designed to make people feel good about living lavishly on the backs of the productive taxpayers, all without having to put forth the effort to understand, much less solve the underlying problems associated with “green” energy

 

[SpeedyR]

we had a leaf for about 2 and a half years. Absolutely zero maintenance. Like I replaced the wiper blades one year, filled the washer fluid a couple of time, and that was it. I replaced the tires before we turned the car back in (lease). No oil changes, no batteries, no air filters, oil filters, etc. I would assume as the cars get older the lack of any maintenance items would get better for EV vs gas (belts, gaskets, exhaust, emissions systems, radiators, etc. etc).

I'm sure the tires wear quicker, but I get less than a year out of a $1700 set on my current ICE car (heavy with a lot of torque and no self control). The leaf tires were like $300 for a full set. Not going to loose sleep over tire life on an EV. If you are buying your vehicles based on tire life, you probably need to get a life.

At the time with the tax credits or whatever they were doing, the car cost us less than $30/month for the car, plus maybe another $10-30 a month added to our electric bill (wife could charge for free at her office, and there were still free/cheap places to charge at the time). Plus she could use the HOV lane to get to the office and saved a lot of time commuting.

It was a great car and great ownership experience. Lots has changed since then but I would get another one without any hesitation if it fit our needs. I could care less about the "green" aspects of the car, but have to say the whole experience was good for us. Plus in GA if you are charging the car at night, it's basically nuclear powered, as a lot of the base load for the grid in GA is nuclear powered.

Most of the people I know that are buying EVs are doing it because it fits their needs, not because they want a "green" car. Low maintenance, low cost of ownership (depending upon what resale is, government rebates, etc), nice vehicle, good performance, etc.

Until they learn to recycle the batteries, then the "green" aspects of it will increase so they don't have to mine the lithium and other materiels for each vehicle. Battery technology continues to improve as we go along I'm sure.