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Why buy a Stacatto??

They should. But they aren't. There are lots of excuses. Not saying they're all valid, but they're there.

Your pistol could explode in your hand due to a misload from the factory or from personal error, yet people shoot millions of rounds a year with no issue. Life comes with risks. You have ones you evidently won't take but others would. And probably some you would take that others wouldn't.

Broad sweeping statements are not universal. And not realistic. But this is not the thread to discuss that philosophy.
🙄 wah-wah -wah MUH STACATTO FALLS AND IT GOES BOOM…. Seriously you would take a risk on a gun not being drop safe?
 
You that last paragraph “ I wouldn’t go so far as to say every gun a person should be” is just an excuse for staccato, there is some dude with a Taurus g2c ( 199$ academy special) out there and his gun is better than a non drop safe staccato.

Actually there's a lot of shotguns that aren't drop safe that I was primarily thinking of. But a shotgun is something I think almost every household should have.

I like Staccatos and such that are not drop safe the same reason I like muscle and sports cars with little electronic assistances. Yeah it's "more dangerous to handle" but that's part of the fun. If the stars align and I drop said staccato just right it could cap me. But running it is fun enough to take the chance 😅
 
They are expensive, but if you buy one here at a used price, you are unlikely to love much money when you sell it in the future. I don’t understand how they are not drop safe unless someone has put in a light sear spring that will not hold the sear against the hammer. It sounds like there is video evidence, but was it with a factory Staccato? I have about 75,000 rounds through a couple of STIs and have never had a failure that was not with older Gen 1 mags or suspected the ammo was at fault. They have tight chambers in diameter but usually pretty long. You need to size check self defense ammo if you use one for SD.
There will be factory rounds that fail a size check and fail to feed in a STI but will feed just fine in a Glock.
 
2011s combine the shootability of a 1911 with a good single action trigger with the capacity of a polymer pistol. All this at the expense of initial cost, mag cost, plus 1911/2011s take a little more love to be used to 100%. Not to say they are unreliable, but require slightly more care and parts fitting than an off the shelf polymer gun. You will also get more performance in the areas of accuracy, recoil management, and speed.

Do those differences matter to the average ODTer who can't walk up a flight of stairs without getting winded and pisses himself when he sees a woman in real life? No.

Do they make a difference if you actually enjoy shooting, take your gun to the range more than once a decade, and feed it better than Bubbas' random shop floor reloads? Also yes.

there is a reason you see 2011s, especially with dots and comps, at the leader of ALL shooting competitions where more than stock guns are allowed. And you'll see mostly iron sighted, non-comp where they aren't allowed. They increase performance if you do the work.

The reason you see many for sale is people chasing being cool, who don't shoot, who don't think they are worth it once they get their hands on it. Most people don't have 2 nickels to rub together and doesn't need a $2k gun when a $200 taurus would do.

Mine is for sale because insurance is ****ing over my wife with an autoimmune condition post-cancer and her monthly med costs more than my house :-/
 
A couple of years ago, I got a wild hair and purchased a Staccato C2 off of GunBroker.

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I mostly just wanted to try a 2011 since I had never owned one before. My original plan was to carry it, but I quickly found that it was just a little too big and bulky for my liking. At least for EDC. Also, I was a little leery about putting such an expensive gun through the beating that my EDC pistols usually take. However, the thing was an amazing shooter. I really enjoyed it.

Then I started watching YouTube videos showing the Staccato XC. That thing looked amazing, and according to the reviews, it was a well built, super fast, flat shooting tack driver. Some referred to it as a "cheat code". That was enough to persuade me to sell my C2 and buy an XC. Turned out to be a decision that I do not regret!

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In my opinion, the XC definitely lives up to the hype. It has quickly become my favorite handgun to shoot, by a mile. Keeping in mind the purpose I bought it for, which is basically just a fun range gun for me. Yes, it was expensive for that purpose, but I enjoy it so much that I have no regrets whatsoever. IMHO, there are much better (and cheaper) options for concealed carry. I prefer my polymer pistols for that role.
 
2011s combine the shootability of a 1911 with a good single action trigger with the capacity of a polymer pistol. All this at the expense of initial cost, mag cost, plus 1911/2011s take a little more love to be used to 100%. Not to say they are unreliable, but require slightly more care and parts fitting than an off the shelf polymer gun. You will also get more performance in the areas of accuracy, recoil management, and speed.

Do those differences matter to the average ODTer who can't walk up a flight of stairs without getting winded and pisses himself when he sees a woman in real life? No.

Do they make a difference if you actually enjoy shooting, take your gun to the range more than once a decade, and feed it better than Bubbas' random shop floor reloads? Also yes.

there is a reason you see 2011s, especially with dots and comps, at the leader of ALL shooting competitions where more than stock guns are allowed. And you'll see mostly iron sighted, non-comp where they aren't allowed. They increase performance if you do the work.

The reason you see many for sale is people chasing being cool, who don't shoot, who don't think they are worth it once they get their hands on it. Most people don't have 2 nickels to rub together and doesn't need a $2k gun when a $200 taurus would do.

Mine is for sale because insurance is ****ing over my wife with an autoimmune condition post-cancer and her monthly med costs more than my house :-/
Thanks for the realistic input, and FWIW, I hate to hear that about your wife...insurance is a racket!
 
It's about what you want. When you want a 2011/double stack 1911, the mark starts with a STI/Staccato and goes up from there. I mentioned it in another post, but double stack guns are either cheap junk or crazy expensive and quality, there is no in-between.

When we think of the cheapest reliable carry gun, most us would agree it starts about Glock range. It works every time and it's reasonable for what it is on cost. The staccato fills that roll in a 2011. There are cheaper guns but they lack in quality.

If you want a 2011, start with a staccato. You can move up from there if you decide you like it. And...you won't lose much if you decide you don't, just like a glock.

Sincerely, 2 STIs, 2 Staccatos and Glock 17 carrier.
 
I was ready to buy one. I’m the type of guy that maybe would put 500 rounds thru it a year, but I wanted one, because my buddy had one. They feel great. My friend maybe ended up with a lemon ,it went back to Texas a couple of times for repairs. That kind of turned me off to it.
 
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