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India vs Pakistan

Sounds like shelling....?

Might see Pakistani J-10Cs (bought from China)...

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....versus Indian Rafales (bought from France).

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Some Indian aircraft have been confirmed to have been shot down. India has confirmed it as well, possibly a French made Rafales. It’s worth mentioning both sides possess large numbers of western made offensive and defense weapons from NATO countries. Aircraft, Radars, APC’s and others. Pakistani military also possesses American made Lockheed Martin ANTPS-77 air defense radar system. Which can easily detect F-16s and other gen4 fighter aircraft.
 
Some Indian aircraft have been confirmed to have been shot down. India has confirmed it as well, possibly a French made Rafales. It’s worth mentioning both sides possess large numbers of western made offensive and defense weapons from NATO countries. Aircraft, Radars, APC’s and others. Pakistani military also possesses American made Lockheed Martin ANTPS-77 air defense radar system. Which can easily detect F-16s and other gen4 fighter aircraft.
We'll see what losses are real on both sides. A true Rafale loss would be quite a blow for the IAF, since they are their most recent big ticket purchase and perhaps their future standard aircraft. Plus the Indian navy just signed a contract for 26 of the Rafale M.

If India has lost an aircraft as some are reporting, I would have guessed it to be Mirage-2000, since they were used in the 1999 Kargil War for strike missions. But reports are saying Rafale as you mentioned. Same for Pakistan, a newly acquired J-10C going down (or an older F-16) at some point would be a severe setback for the PAF and China.

India has also relied heavily on Russia in the past for aircraft (plus tanks and other weapons) so their SU-3MKIs may have played a role in the strikes (CAP?). In 2019 the IAF did lose a MiG-21 Bison, but a Rafale or Su-30 would be a much bigger deal. Pakistan has been turning to China, so if things escalate further we'll see which weapons prove to be successful and which do not (France vs Russia vs China).
 
one of the end of the world books I've read, starts with nuclear launch between Pakistan and India....then, from there....kinda like popping the cherry....
how did they get nuclear in the first place....guess because they are smarter...
 
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